Today I went with two liberal friends of mine to see Celsius 4111.

Celsius 41.11 is not a point-by-point refutation of "Fahrenheit," but corrects the record on the important misleading themes in Moore's movie, including the 2000 Florida presidential vote, weapons of mass destruction, intelligence failures and the war on terror.

After we watch the movie we sat down and had lunch, we did not talk about the movie. Then one of them looked at me and said, "I get it, I will not waste my vote on November 2. I do not agree with George Bush on many things, but he is the best candidate to lead us now." My other friend said that he would have to do some serious thinking about what he saw. I will talk with him later in the week.

Then when I got home my copy of Farenhype 911 that I ordered from www.overstock.com came in. I sat here with my wife and watched it. It has many of the people that Michael Moore interviewed in Fahrenheit 911 in it. Here they tell you that they did not even meet Michael Moore that they had talked with other people that were shooting documentaries about other subjects. One of the soldiers was speaking with Brian Williams of NBC News about Phantom limb pain, he was shocked and upset that his comments were edited to make a point in Michael Moore’s movie. They had a family that was surprised to see that their brother’s funeral footage was used in Fahrenheit 911 without their permission. They said that their brother was proud of his service and the cause that he died for. This movie takes Michael Moore’s movie apart, lie by lie. I have a friend at work that I will be taking this movie to tomorrow.

 

Your friend changed his mind because he saw a movie? Maybe he should just stay home on November 2nd.

 

I know a bunch of Kerry voters that should stay home. Many of them have no idea why they are for him. Most do not know anything about the issues, or the facts.

 

That is where you are wrong. There is not many people FOR Kerry or who support Kerry. The majority of people voting for Kerry are those so filled with hate and misinformation from the liberal propaganda machine that they HATE Bush.

It is so very sad to see so many misinformed individuals voting for someone because they hate another. Kerry should NOT feel proud of the support he has because in reality Kerry have very LITTLE support and very LITTLE people who actual believe in him and his views. He just happens to be the “other” guy they can vote for since they HATE Bush so much…

This is why I predict with confidence that President Bush will be re-elected. People who “actually” support and believe in a candidate go to vote while those filled with hate and discontent usually stay home…

Kerry is a very weak timid coward man and most people who may vote for him feel the same way except he is their only other choice.

No need to worry Kerry won’t ever see the inside of the White House as a President…

 

There is a local TV station here that is sueing Moore for using footage and quotes from their reporter in his movie without getting authorization to do so. They have said the story he used and the way he twisted it for his effect was a violation of copy righted material. There are many more suits like this filed against Moore for his twisting of fact.

Sled...

 

AMEN !!!


"The majority of people voting for Kerry are those so filled with hate and misinformation from the liberal propaganda machine that they HATE Bush".


Ain't that the truth.
I've said it once and will say it again, One person alone, president or not can be responsible for the state of our nation, or conditions around the world.

 

Ain't that the Truth!
Time for a flea bath.

 

You are way off on this one Burt. It's an easy out to say someone is voting for a challenger when there is an incumbent. That ploy has been used every time someone is up for re-election, and is an issue every time someone is up for re-election and frankly, I expect better from you. Just because all you right-wingers can't come up with any real reasons you support Bush (who isn't really conservative), doesn't mean you have to cut down people that support Kerry.

I mean, I don't go around saying Bush supporters are simpletons that can only understand catch phrases but aren't capable of comprehending big words like "Orwellian", even though it seems to be the norm. No Burt, I, and everyone I know that does, supports Kerry because he is the better choice. Bush has "The War on Terror" and a tax cut that he's riding on. The war is BS, it's really Bush's war on Saddam. That's why he had the mission accomplished sign, his mission WAS accomplished, he could care less about the rest of it.

I would dare say a lot of right-wingers are voting for Bush because he's not Kerry, because Bush isn't exactly a conservative. I'll agree, there are people that will vote for anyone but Bush, and Kerry should not be proud of their support, but not any more than Bush should be ASHAMED that he has lost support. How bad do you have to be to have a person vote for anyone EXCEPT you?

Kerry is far from weak, despite your simple, one-sided political views. Kerry had the ***** to say what was happening in Vietnam, Kerry had the ***** to say that Reagan trafficing cocaine into the US was wrong (alot from his party were involved), Kerry had the ***** to say when a lot of US businesses and politicians were involved with the terrorists banks. I feel bad for those that mistake GW's one track mind for strength, it's NOT, it's stupidity. It's simple, too bad the world isn't so simple. What exactly makes Bush strong? The constant failures? The fact that he is a smearer and liar? I watched him in Florida on Saturday. he's telling the crowd that he created an $87 billion bill to support our troops that Kerry voted against. Too bad none of the blind in the crowd know (or care) how little of the money was for "protecting our troops". I think we all know it was for almost everything EXCEPT our troops. He is using sympathy for troops to get re-elected the same way he used sympathy for 9/11 to get into Iraq. Bush is a weak little liar, a strong man wouldn't lie and maniplulate.

You may think that Kerry will not get into the white house, and it may or may not happen, but who thought a chimp that can barely speak would get in? That man doesn't deserve to sweep the stairs at the white house, never mind run it. (The chimp comment is about his mentality, not his looks, convenient they match though)

 

A friend of mine came home for the weekend from working on the Kerry Camp with the DNC. We went out to lunch and walking back to the truck she looks over at a car with a big yellow ribbon magnet on it and says, "I dont understand why people put those ugly yellow things on their cars, they look so bad." After I nicely explained to her they were for supporting our troops she herself laughed and said she wasnt farmiliar with that sort of thing. And she works on the camp....

Although both sides have them, this election seems to have more uneducated voters with no politcal knowledge what so ever pulling that Kerry level just because of a huntch or some personal dislike for Bush.

I have a family member that filed out their absentee ballot for Kerry and said to her husband, "In case I have complications with the surgury please send this in, I cant risk not helping to get Bush out of there." Now what could this man have possibly done to her thats sooo terrible. She claims she would vote for ANYONE but Bush.....

Too much of this is going on. A whole camp focused on hating the other canidate and not focusing on their own team, typical Boston/Mass type...

 

God help us all if Kerry takes office! The silent MAJORITY is voting Bush, the majority that does not believe everything they see on TV. The silent majority who is not so filled with hate that they don't see through the lies of the Kerry camp!

Save our country, vote for Bush!

 

C'mon, guys....

We all know deep down inside that John Kerry can do everything that's needed. He has a plan for everything. He is so good that he has a plan for things we don't even know about yet.

What bothers me is whay he hasn't shared his plan for defeating terrorism with the military so that we might lose less lives in Iraq. He is an American, isn't he? Please don't tell me that this great leader is playing politics with American lives...

Dave...

 

I'm not sure what this means. Should I be offended being from MA.?

Don't paint this state with one brush. I know of a lot of hard working folks who will absolutly not be voting for Kerry. I am one of them! Those high income people who live on Beacon Hill don't seem to realize that it's us hard working folks who do a big part to keep our economy working. Kerry's repeal of the tax cut to the "rich" will hurt the small buisness that I work for and many others that I work with. I've seen a lot of people do better in the past four years than they had in the past. I'm one of them also. I realize that there are some areas of the country that are being effected by the restructuring of the job base but there are a lot of areas where people are doing just fine.

Kerry is expected to win this state. The dems usually do. I think one of the reasons is there are a bunch of not so hard working, wealthy people who feel guilty for the "poor" people they see when they leave the burbs and head into the city. I guess they think we're all supposed to feel guilty. They don't seem to see the hard working people going to work every day, often for ten, twelve, fourteen hours a day in persuit of a good life. They don't see the "poor" people in the city robbing, and shooting each other. Are those the people they want our tax dollars to help? I don't! That tax cut for the "rich" in the past four years has allowed the company that I work for to get a couple new Ford trucks, upgrade some of our equipment and hire a couple employees. If Kerry makes it in then something will have to give. I guess we would have to get rid of one of our tax paying employees. They would have to collect unemployment benefits which are very costly to a small buisness. We wouldn't be able to get as much work done with one less employee, thus bringing our revenues down. All the work that has been done in the past four years to make this small buisness grow will go down the drain (pun intended).

Sure, Kerry is looking out for my best interests.

Why aren't these movies Celsius 41.11 and Fahrenhype 911 being advertized like that fat guys "documovie" is?

 

momalle1,

You misread my post. I did “not” say ALL Kerry supporters were voting for Kerry because they hate Bush, I said “the majority”:

 

I cant tell you how many people I know and have heard say I am voting for Skerry because he is for the working man.

When asked how he is for the working man they have no clue.

These people scare me more than Skerry himself.

Eddy, its not just Boston, these twits are everywhere..


Sled...

 

Kerry + work = hallucination