O.J. "If I did it...."

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Old 11-16-2006 | 02:30 PM
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I'm not taking up for OJ- he might be guilty...
He was tried by our system of law, the same system that allowed a woman who killed three of her kids in Plano 2 years ago, to be set free froma mental institution, and back on the streets this past Monday (11/13/2006). It's a flawed system, but it's ours.

For better or for warse, our criminal justice system found him not guilty. Whether we feel he's guilty or innocent, is irrelevant. That should be the end of it. It's hard for anyone to prove the didn't do something if it comes down to you versus them; the prosecutors couldn't prove he did.

This should never have gone to "Civil" trial. That happened because people were pissed, plain & simple, he was going to be foudn guilty one way, or the other-dammit!
 
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Old 11-16-2006 | 02:41 PM
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I'm with Hersh 100%.
 
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Old 11-16-2006 | 08:07 PM
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In a criminal trial the prosecution must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. In a civil case the plaintiff is only required to prove that it is more likely to be true than not true.

O.J.s celebrity and excellent defense team got him off in his criminal trial. Just because he was not found guilty by the standard of a reasonable doubt does not mean he did not do it.
 
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Old 11-16-2006 | 11:34 PM
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Our Fox station isn't even going to air the interview
 
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Old 11-17-2006 | 10:23 AM
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Personally, I think he did it, BUT, if you can't be convicted beyond a REASONABLE doubt, you should be off the hook. These civil trials are ridiculous. You're either guilty or innocent, not both.
 
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Old 11-17-2006 | 05:42 PM
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Whats the big deal, O.J. has done searched every golf course in Florida for the killer. Didn't he get caught a few years ago trying to buy cocaine over the telephone? Why don't people just ignore the ***** and hopefully he will die. Enjoy hell with Cochrane I say.
 
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Old 11-17-2006 | 06:14 PM
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Whats the big deal, O.J. has done searched every golf course in Florida for the killer. Didn't he get caught a few years ago trying to buy cocaine over the telephone? Why don't people just ignore the ***** and hopefully he will die. Enjoy hell with Cochrane I say.
Yeah the ****roach keeled over and then Shapiro's son OD'd. Maybe Barry Scheck is due for some trouble next, or perhaps the epitome of smug arrogance himself-- Alan Dershowitz-- will get it next.
 
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Old 11-18-2006 | 09:37 PM
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Now, I'll be the first to admit that OJ had motive, I mean- you're paying your Ex-Wife $32,000 a month in child-support and alimony, and she's messing around with some youngster
She divorced a wife beater. Who she messes around with after that is none of his damn business, I don't give a rats **** how much money he's paying out every month. Maybe she should've killed him in his sleep for busting up her face on repeated occasions, but she didn't, so he killed her. He may have had motive in a legal sense, but it sounds like you think he had good reason to kill her, in which case you'd be very wrong.

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But, at the same time, they took everything this man had.
No, he gave it away, to his legal team, remember? After that, all income he makes is protected by the state of Florida, which is why he lives there. The civil case award will never get paid a dime as long as he maintains residence there. Total BS IMO. I'd laugh my butt off if somebody brutally waxes him someday and leaves a glove behind
 

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Old 11-20-2006 | 01:40 AM
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What's as disturbing is that people are going to watch.
This is so true. OJ is slime but the people who actually buy the book and watch the programs are just plain scary.
 
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Old 11-20-2006 | 02:37 AM
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Anyone who is sympathetic to this SOB is an idiot. He is a murderer, plain and simple. He got away with it because the prosecutors and police totally f@#ked up this case. Before anyone opens their pie hole in support of this piece of **** needs to be informed of the REAL FACTS IN THIS CASE. There is absolutely no way that anyone could read the facts, hear and see the evidence (most of which was not allowed in court because of the screw ups with not securing the vehicle with the crime scene) and believe anything other than this ***** did it. Our judicial system let us down BIG TIME. This book and show are nothing more than feeding off of the public for dough, that's all. The most herrific part of this whole deal is the affect it will have on the Goldman family, the Smith family and Nicole's children having to relive this stuff once again. (rant over and I don't care if you agree with me!)
 
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Old 11-20-2006 | 03:57 PM
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Well, I'll say it like this... I remember vividly the slow-speed chase. This happened the DAY I got back to Fort Hood after dropping my wife off at Ft. Benjamin Harrison, Indiana. It was a sweltering 90+ degrees, myself and two friends had just jogged the III Corps track, and returned to the baracks to hear...

Friend: "Man, OJ's about to get a cap popped in his ****!"
Me: What happened?
Friend: "The cops are chasing him down the freeway, they're saying he killed his wife. He's talking about killing himself."
Me: No s**t?! Yeah, he probably won't have to do that; he'll be real lucky if the cops don't kill him.
Friend: "They have it on upstairs, let's go check it out."

So, we went... Nothing happened for a long time, chase continued, and I eventually left.

Hearing the statements over the phone, I gotta tell ya, OJ seemed guilty as Hell. My questions were: Why run? Why would you want to kill yourself? Why say you don't deserve to live- if you didn't do something worth your own death?

All of that made him look guilty; but, I realize people say and do a LOT of stupid s**t when they are under a lot of stress, or hear about the death of a loved (or once-loved) one. (See: Family funeral, or Wedding for other high-stree mental meltdowns).

Initially- I thought OJ was guilty; maybe he was.
But, I'm a habitual pot stirrer, so - here goes...

Anyone who is sympathetic to this SOB is an idiot. He is a murderer, plain and simple. He got away with it because the prosecutors and police totally f@#ked up this case.
And you know this, how? Gut feeling? Hairs on the back of your neck? What about the Ramsey's? Who killed Jon Benet? My gut told me someone in the family did that, but- we don't know- and, that family dodged questions like Neo dodges bullets in The Matrix.

Before anyone opens their pie hole in support of this piece of **** needs to be informed of the REAL FACTS IN THIS CASE.
What "Real Facts" were you privy to, that the Jury was not privy to? What kind of crime scene evidence would be inadmissible?

There is absolutely no way that anyone could read the facts, hear and see the evidence (most of which was not allowed in court because of the screw ups with not securing the vehicle with the crime scene) and believe anything other than this ***** did it.
Are you saying that a Jury of his peers was incapable of reaching the best decision, based upon the evidence, or lack thereof, presented to them? That never happens...

Our judicial system let us down BIG TIME.
Us? Kinda like when the Cowboys's kicker (Vanderjaght, sp) misses a 23 yarder, and somone says, "We need to get rid of him!" We... I don't think many of us had a stake in this trial.

She divorced a wife beater. Who she messes around with after that is none of his damn business, I don't give a rats **** how much money he's paying out every month. Maybe she should've killed him in his sleep for busting up her face on repeated occasions, but she didn't, so he killed her. He may have had motive in a legal sense, but it sounds like you think he had good reason to kill her, in which case you'd be very wrong.
I'm not saying he should've killed her... Very little warrants death, but somethings do, which is why some states recognize a provision for a crime of passion. I'm just saying this was a powerful motive. Letting some other dude drive your car? That's like saying, "In your face!!" Everytime the engine is cranked... Would you be cool with your ex and the mother of your kids performing fellatio on her new man, in front of your kids? Did you hear that 911 tape?

But, be that as it may- I'll tell you like this. The Brown family was cool with the ****-whippings OJ put on Nicole, as long as they were getting an allowance. If it was my sister's **** he was whipping, no matter how much money he'd given my family, Buffalo Bills tickets, or whatever- he'd be walking with a limp today, if he'd survived the attack; or he'd have killed me first.

He might be guilty, all I'm saying is- no one out here has any "REAL" evidence, and if you think you do, it is you who are the dummy. You ate what the media fed you, just like we all did. The only people who really heard evidence took minutes to come back and say- Not Guilty. If it was as easy as Geraldo thought it was, wouldn't it have been easier for them to say, guilty?

That, plus I can't stand Geraldo.
 

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Old 11-20-2006 | 04:19 PM
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NOTE:

OJ Book deal and TV INterview- Cancelled...


We may now return to our regularly scheduled lives, already in progress...
 
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Old 11-20-2006 | 04:23 PM
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criminal law
In criminal litigation, the burden of proof is always on the state. The state must prove that the defendant is guilty. The defendant is assumed to be innocent; the defendant needs to prove nothing. (There are exceptions. If the defendant wishes to claim that he/she is insane, and therefore not guilty, the defendant bears the burden of proving his/her insanity. Other exceptions include defendants who claim self-defense or duress.)

In criminal litigation, the state must prove that the defendant satisfied each element of the statutory definition of the crime, and the defendant's participation, "beyond a reasonable doubt." It is difficult to put a valid numerical value on the probability that a guilty person really committed the crime, but legal authorities who do assign a numerical value generally say "at least 98% or 99%" certainty of guilt.

civil law
In civil litigation, the burden of proof is initially on the plaintiff. However, there are a number of technical situations in which the burden shifts to the defendant. For example, when the plaintiff has made a prima facie case, the burden shifts to the defendant to refute or rebut the plaintiff's evidence.

In civil litigation, the plaintiff wins if the preponderance of the evidence favors the plaintiff. For example, if the jury believes that there is more than a 50% probability that the defendant was negligent in causing the plaintiff's injury, the plaintiff wins. This is a very low standard, compared to criminal law.

I bet the money this dirt bag makes gets hidden in properties and other peoples names so the 2 victims family's don't get a penny.
 
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Old 11-20-2006 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bighersh
NOTE:

OJ Book deal and TV INterview- Cancelled...


We may now return to our regularly scheduled lives, already in progress...
Just heard that same time you posted. It'll get out somewhere though.
 
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Old 11-20-2006 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bighersh
NOTE:

OJ Book deal and TV INterview- Cancelled...


We may now return to our regularly scheduled lives, already in progress...
Yea that made my day.
 


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