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Old 01-04-2007 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mattadams
criminals will always find ways to break the laws. So what is your solution.
I dont need one, because I dont have a problem.
 
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Old 01-04-2007 | 12:13 PM
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Angry I just don't understand

Why is it so difficult to make one of these dogs wear a muzzle (when they are outside). Without all the name calling someone please explain this. Some of us here have taken a lot of heat for wanting to protect family, If it were your child that lived next door to an animal breed that has a reputation of being friendly one second and killing the next, is it too much to ask for a muzzle. How does that family know the dog has been properly trained. Should they just hope for the best??? Owners stop and think Denver and many other cities have banned these dogs and the laws have stood up, there must be a valid reason. For the fourth and final time if all else fails only then would I suggest feeding these dogs something dangerous, remember humans will protect family members "by all means necessary"
 
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Old 01-04-2007 | 12:39 PM
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Please don't be so closed minded

Since I can't seem to get you to understand-- What part of last resort don't you understand. If I thought it meant saving my grand daughter there is NOTHING I would not do. Atleast maybe you will buy a muzzle. What about homeowner insurance, most companies will not insure homes with pitbulls Do you think dogs can't jump or dig under fences or know about property lines. If you think you can do anything you want on your property then why would you object to someone placing meat laced with hooks (on their property) http://www.rosenblog.com/2005/05/24/...questions.html
 

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Old 01-04-2007 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubbadewsky
Since I can't seem to get you to understand-- What part of last resort don't you understand. If I thought it meant saving my grand daughter there is NOTHING I would not do. Atleast maybe you will buy a muzzle. What about homeowner insurance, most companies will not insure homes with pitbulls Do you think dogs can't jump or dig under fences or know about property lines. If you think you can do anything you want on your property then why would you object to someone placing meat laced with hooks (on their property) http://www.rosenblog.com/2005/05/24/...questions.html
As he stated, there are more humane alternatives. if the animal has to be put down, there is a humane way to do it.
 
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Old 01-04-2007 | 12:58 PM
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How 'bout some ideas

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As he stated, there are more humane alternatives. if the animal has to be put down, there is a humane way to do it.
Everyone doesn't own a gun. Authorities may not be of help. Antifreeze is just as violent. You can't strangle them can't drown them.You could maybe stab them. You can't hang 'em, so give us some ideas. The answer is MUZZLES the dog is protected from hooks and the neighbors are protected from the dog's jaws
 
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Old 01-04-2007 | 01:23 PM
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what about when the dogs are out over night and put up before the pound opens. when you call the pound if they are not out when they are not out they wont do anything
If the animal control officer is unavailable, in every municipality I've lived in, you call the PD (via the non-emergency number preferably) and they will send a squad car out. If the responding officer needs to, he/she can have dispatch contact the animal control officer(s) on-call and they will come deal with the situation as necessary. Again, at least there is a paper trail being generated for whatever action you find you need to take.


Am I the only one talking about the original question here??? Everyone seems to be focused on the good breed/bad breed issue... the original question has nothing to do with the breed.

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Old 01-04-2007 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubbadewsky
Since I can't seem to get you to understand-- What part of last resort don't you understand. If I thought it meant saving my grand daughter there is NOTHING I would not do. Atleast maybe you will buy a muzzle. What about homeowner insurance, most companies will not insure homes with pitbulls Do you think dogs can't jump or dig under fences or know about property lines. If you think you can do anything you want on your property then why would you object to someone placing meat laced with hooks (on their property) http://www.rosenblog.com/2005/05/24/...questions.html
yep and stray bullets sometimes generate from my property too. Of course thats the last resort when all others have been exhausted and nothing left but revenge. I can;t help that it richocheted off that rock.

A last resort for your situation would be a .22 with sub sonics when you caught said dog on your place, not by luring him in with bait like food ......
 

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Old 01-04-2007 | 01:47 PM
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You can trust me when I say, if I found out anyone in my neighborhood did that to even a stray dog...... They wont enjoy living here anymore.

Shoot them yes, but that, that is to risky as to who or what recives it, not to mention the cruelness of it. Obvisuly if there was times for this to happen no ones life was imediatly in danger, so why this so called last resort was taken is beyond my capabilities to comprehend.
 
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Old 01-04-2007 | 01:49 PM
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so what happens when my muzzled pitbull gets thirsty while outside in the back yard practicing his kill moves???
 
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Old 01-04-2007 | 01:53 PM
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You can trust me when I say, if I found out anyone in my neighborhood did that to even a stray dog...... They wont enjoy living here anymore.

Shoot them yes, but that, that is to risky as to who or what recives it, not to mention the cruelness of it. Obvisuly if there was times for this to happen no ones life was imediatly in danger, so why this so called last resort was taken is beyond my capabilities to comprehend.

I need to elaborate......

If someone nis willing to do this becasue of what they percive is a threat, what else is this person capable of? I have 2 kids I will not let them be exposed to someone with such a twisted mind set. At this point that person is a bigger threat to my kids than the dog was. Becasue we can not put leashes on people and this act of cruelty is unjustified and an indication of severe mental problems. Not all mental issues result in child molesting and murder but why risk it?
 

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Old 01-04-2007 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
I need to elaborate......

If someone nis willing to do this becasue of what they percive is a threat, what else is this person capable of? I have 2 kids I will not let them be exposed to someone with such a twisted mind set. At this point that person is a bigger threat to my kids than the dog was. Becasue we can not put leashes on people and this act of cruelty is unjustified and an indication of severe mental problems. Not all mental issues result in child molesting and murder but why risk it?
Muzzle them, seems that is the answer to all the worlds problems!!!
 
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Old 01-04-2007 | 02:41 PM
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muzzeling is NOT the answer....you muzzle one breed...you must muzzle them all.....and I am not gonna muzzle my dog!

....the truth of the matter is this.....a dog is trained to act in social settings from its 21st day alive.....from there on....the pup is constantly learning how to interact with other dogs as well as humans.....

....bottom line....a dog is trained how to act.....it will constantly test its boundaries that are set....and without a strong owner/trainer....a dog will readjust its initial training........so in the end, it is always the owner/trainer who is responsible for the dogs behavior....he/she is the one that is tasked to teach a dog how to act.....if the owner/trainer fails.....then so does the dog.....and that is what leads to injury......no matter what the breed.......
 
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Old 01-04-2007 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wstahlm80
muzzeling is NOT the answer....you muzzle one breed...you must muzzle them all.....and I am not gonna muzzle my dog!

....the truth of the matter is this.....a dog is trained to act in social settings from its 21st day alive.....from there on....the pup is constantly learning how to interact with other dogs as well as humans.....

....bottom line....a dog is trained how to act.....it will constantly test its boundaries that are set....and without a strong owner/trainer....a dog will readjust its initial training........so in the end, it is always the owner/trainer who is responsible for the dogs behavior....he/she is the one that is tasked to teach a dog how to act.....if the owner/trainer fails.....then so does the dog.....and that is what leads to injury......no matter what the breed.......
agreed , and thats what I have been trying to say in my posts along with JDOGG and PSS. Bubbadewsky is talking about feeding dogs triple hooks and muzzling dogs...j/k bubba

your post hit the nail on the head Bill
 

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Old 01-04-2007 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
I need to elaborate......

If someone nis willing to do this becasue of what they percive is a threat, what else is this person capable of? I have 2 kids I will not let them be exposed to someone with such a twisted mind set. At this point that person is a bigger threat to my kids than the dog was. Becasue we can not put leashes on people and this act of cruelty is unjustified and an indication of severe mental problems. Not all mental issues result in child molesting and murder but why risk it?
How many parents with maimed or dead children just wish they could have had one more chance to take care of a threat beforehand. I bet you could somehow contact some of these people and maybe then understand what ----by any means necessary means

Protect your defenseless dogs wear a muzzle, just like people who have no respect for the public fear of this breed there are many who believe-there is nothing to inhumane to protect loved ones.

This is a great forum, now many more people know of how dangerous some of these animals are. Maybe we can pass more laws protecting kids. When someone makes statements like "they are just doing whats comes naturaly" or "they eat thier own offspring why not eat others offspring" Thanks, you are helping by your stupidity to eliminate this problem. More statements like this and the pitbull will be like the dinosaur. Over 1,570 have read this subject on this forum and not all agree that there is a problem but many now know that didn't know before hand of the danger.

http://www.stoppitbullattacks.com/Album1.htm
 

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Old 01-04-2007 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubbadewsky
How many parents with maimed or dead children just wish they could have had one more chance to take care of a threat beforehand. I bet you could somehow contact some of these people and maybe then understand what ----by any means necessary means

Protect your defenseless dogs wear a muzzle, just like people who have no respect for the public fear of this breed there are many who believe-there is nothing to inhumane to protect loved ones.

This is a great forum, now many more people know of how dangerous some of these animals are. Maybe we can pass more laws protecting kids. When someone makes statements like "they are just doing whats comes naturaly" or "they eat thier own offspring why not eat others offspring" Thanks, you are helping by your stupidity to eliminate this problem. More statements like this and the pitbull will be like the dinosaur. Over 1,570 have read this subject on this forum and not all agree that there is a problem but many now know that didn't know before hand of the danger.

Link deleted because there was no proof as to what the atacks were actually from and I cant spread ignorance.
How many parents that have lost thier kids to deranged humans wish that as soon that person showed the signs then somethign would have been done. http://www.childmolester.com/ dig through and find a story or two there too....

She was anyone’s little girl. She could have been yours, or mine. She had long, dark hair, which cascaded down the sides of her head and her friendly face would one day become a familiar sight to millions of Americans. Her name was Polly Klaas, a quiet, unassuming 12-year old who lived a comfortable life in Petaluma, California. Like everyone, Polly had her own dreams and plans for the future. On a peaceful night, on October 1, 1993, she was in her own bedroom. She invited two friends over for their very first slumber party and all three girls were immersed in the joy and freedom of being away from their parents for a few hours. Until that awful moment when evil made its way into Polly’s life. At about 10 that evening, an intruder, high on booze and armed with a knife, crawled through an open bedroom window and within minutes, two of the girls were tied up and left writhing in terror on the bedroom floor. Polly was abducted and carried off into the night, the victim of a cowardly killer whose own life was a twisted maze of hate and violence.......
Maybe a little research into Regressed offenders and you'll see why your post here show signs that you could be a sexual predator.

So now you are the threat to your neighborhood.... what should be done about you?
Call the law???
Nope you havent done anything yet so they cant help...
Cant shoot yea....
Treble hooks or razor blades or shreded glass in your food maybe?
Nicotine overdose?

Now that it's you "Mr. Bubbadewsky", and we must protect our kids at all cost.... what should our course of action be?
 

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