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Old 07-18-2011, 02:43 PM
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What are you ensure about Jim? It's going to be a better motor in terms of performance than the one you have now, esp if you decide to tune it. And if you do put an exhaut on it, don't put a Flowmaster on it
 
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Old 07-18-2011, 02:45 PM
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Don't have it yet. Just made a deal over the phone Sat and had no time to go in. Told them we had a deal but it would be next Sat afternoon before I could get in to check it out and drive it. After choosing the 5.0, I just wonder if I am making the correct choice.
If I had to settle for something that small, I'd drive them both to see which one I liked.
 
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Old 07-18-2011, 02:51 PM
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I've driven a 5.0 and it was about the same as my 5.4. BTW, I love my 5.4, she is a good one, as long as it has a tune.
 
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:02 PM
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What are you ensure about Jim? It's going to be a better motor in terms of performance than the one you have now, esp if you decide to tune it. And if you do put an exhaut on it, don't put a Flowmaster on it
When I'm at the dealer, all they can talk about is the EcoBoost. The service manager I know thinks it is the only way to go. I hate the sound of a V6 and I am hesitant to go for anything new. I can't help believe that working that engine and turbo that hard will require more maintenance, but maybe that is all wrong.
 
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:20 PM
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Jim, follow your gut and get the 5.0 I am willing to bet there are going to be problems with Ecoboost powered trucks because of the VGT turbos.
 
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:21 PM
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Actually, the more Torque/HP your engine has, the less it works. The less it works,the lower the temps. Turbo's throw the heat thru the exhaust. So, personally, if there was a concern, it would be with the turbo set up itself. I mean Ford knows how to build an engine.

If you don't like the sound, then go with the 5.0. I'm not sure which one I would choose either. I would have to drive them both.
 
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:28 PM
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Good point Jbrew... you guys remember that camdenlake user who did the V-10 swap in his 2000-2003 F-150? His mpg average shot up with that big engine cause it was working way less.

I'm with you Jim, I can't help but think there will be some issues with the turbo, but then again, the technology has been around for quite some time. Here is my reasoning on the motors tho. If I'm buying a V6 in a truck, it would be a 2wd reg cab 3.33 rear end 3.7 2011. If I needed a lot of power, I'd just get a superduty. I think people are acting like the truck is a 3/4 ton diesel. It's not and never will be. My Dad's (now my brother's) 1990 F-250 5.8 has way less power than the new motors. It got the job done for years pulling our trailer on hills and such. Where you don't do much towing other than your tandem axle trailer from what I see, the 5.0 is the most economical choice. That's just me. Anyone that tows a sizeable trailer should be looking at a 250/2500+ with a big v8 or diesel for the extra power and handling
 
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:32 PM
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Actually, the more Torque/HP your engine has, the less it works. The less it works,the lower the temps. Turbo's throw the heat thru the exhaust. So, personally, if there was a concern, it would be with the turbo set up itself. I mean Ford knows how to build an engine.

If you don't like the sound, then go with the 5.0. I'm not sure which one I would choose either. I would have to drive them both.
I understand what you are saying but does that little engine not work harder(more rpms, etc) to produce that power?

This is not really relevant, but back in the late 80s, I had a friend with an 87 Grand National. I had a 1954 Ford F100 with a 351 Clev 4V, 4.88 gears and nitrous. We would race almost every weekend for 1/4 mile. From the standstill, that Buick would take me off the line so far that you would think there was no way I could ever catch him in a 1/4, but about 2/3 down the strip, I would blow his stuff in the weeds and pull away. He never beat me. That thing had tremendous low end torque but ran out of engine about 2/3 down the track. I'm wondering if the EcoBoost is similar or if it is completely different.
 
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:41 PM
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Me and Vintage Character. LOL









 
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:48 PM
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You need to get that truck going again Jim... seriously
 
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:12 PM
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They all run hard when racing lol. Under normal acceleration is more less your usable Torque /HP. That's where it's at, for the DD. Less effort to weight ratio.

Yea TruckGuy, - I'm looking for a good deal on a V10 for the 98. IF the 5four ever gets weak. That's going take more time. I can't pull it without reason damnit. 274,000 miles and it's still putting out more power than spec. Doesn't burn, use or leak a drop of oil. That's a Ford reman engine tho, -my first blew @ about 30,000 miles. Still has the Original heavy duty trans tho.
 
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:16 PM
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Me and Vintage Character. LOL


Dang, you still have that truck ? I didn't know that. What is it, I'll guess , a 59?

What's that next to yuh ? A Nova, maybe an old Ventura ?

Old pics, -Good ole days lol.
 
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:23 PM
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Dang, you still have that truck ? I didn't know that. What is it, I'll guess , a 59?

What's that next to yuh ? A Nova, maybe an old Ventura ?

Old pics, -Good ole days lol.
It is a 1954 F100. This is what it looked like when I paid $500 for it(minus those wheels).



Yep, a Chevy Nova. That Cleveland loved eating Chevys, big blocks and small blocks.
 
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:33 PM
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The mods were:
Crane Fireball cam, pretty radical
Holley alum intake, medium rise
Holley 850 double pumper
Holley high volume fuel pump
4.88 gears
Built C-4 automatic
Ford dual point distributor
Mallory ignition stuff
then later, 175 horse nitrous set up.
Best time was 12.96 at 98 mph at Little River Raceway, Little River, TX. That was on the bottle. Off the bottle, the best was a 13.88

Obviously, traction was the key.
 
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:56 PM
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Just drive the 54 Jim. You'll save money.
 


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