K-Mac as usual you are in your own little world. The reason for the Bush tax cuts was to get the economy back on track. If you recall back in 2001 we were in a recession when we were attacked. The double whammy killed the economy and the only way the government can successfully change the economy is by cutting or raising taxes. Raising taxes slows the economy and cutting them speeds it up. During a recession/depression cutting taxes is proper and the correct thing to do for improvement. Not spending trillions of dollars, which only makes more money available and results in inflation. Kind of like what we have now. People were complaining about the deficit during Bush's later years because in his 8 years he grew the debt about 8 trillion dollars. The current president is looking to increase the debt that much in four years. That is a very big problem.

There is a lot of government spending that can be cut that is just wasteful. Take my wife's agency. In her office there are two other people who do the same job she does as well as two people who do the next step up in the process. The minimum needed for mission accomplishment is two people in each position. That way one can be sick or go on vacation and the job still gets done. In reality the office can and should be consolidated with other offices and leave one representative in the office to handle anybody who comes in. Having another rep or two working as a traveling employee going to offices where people are on vacation or out sick would be required. If manning was done based on work load the wife could handle everything needing to get done and still have plenty of time to goof off. The systems they use causes the process to be very slow. They are stuck in the 70's and the world has passed them by. If they updated their systems they could cut 1/3 of their work force without any problem. It is a very poorly run agency with racism running amok and the reason for existence does not make sense. Currently she is looking for another job back in private industry.

 

Those tax cuts really did a great job to get the economy churning, eh?

The economy really got rocked because of greed and people taking advantage of the regulators being swept out of the way. If people can cheat, they will. None of this would have happened if the system had proper oversight and there were consequences for the actions of those that fleeced us.

Out of all of this crap, not one single person has gone to prison for this financial meltdown. Even Reagan made sure people came to justice (well except the Bush family...but...).

The reality is there is not enough cutting that can be reasonably done to balance the budget, not to mention pay down the debt. That is reality...like it or not.

Yes we can all point out inefficiencies in government jobs as well as private organizations. If you can honestly find me a single large organization that has absolutely ZERO waste, you are kidding yourself.

Even if you have 10 employees services wasted and assume they get 50k a year, it is a half a million dollars stacked up against trillions of dollars. It is a drop in the bucket.

In order to pay down the debt, you have to bring more money in than you spend. Reagan started the crazy spending and they all have been whipping out the US Government VISA card ever since.

 

I liked McCain...I just couldn't vote for someone who could put someone like Sarah Palin in a position to even sit in the oval office yet alone rule our country.

I voted for Obama last election....now once again its shattered hopes of what didn't happen and that he's just another politician. Partly due to Congress holding out but cmon, stick with your guns like you said you would.

The Republican nominees are not exactly at the top of my list either. If it stays with those who are currently seeking the nominee my vote will again go for Obama and I will hope for the best.

 

Preeeecisely. As much as I disagreed with Obama's positions, I could not in good conscience cast a vote that would potentially put Sarah Palin at the desk in the Oval Office. McCain's choice of Palin was the equivalent of a hail mary -- bold, but clearly they didn't do enough homework on her before making the choice.

 

And Obama, the community organizer, with Biden, foot-n-mouth guy, were a better choice...

 

Yeah that Joe Biden is one smart fellow!

 

Joe Biden might stick his foot in his mouth....but he has WORLD's of foreign policy experience over Sarah Palin and her talking points....

I'll give her my vote if she can name the capitols of 3 major countries in the world without being told what to say. You can only play smart for so long....and she's horrible at it.

I also won't speak bad about Biden for what he did for Law Enforcement in this country....good people in my book.

 

No he does not. He has many multi-syllable words that come out of his mouth to make people think he has foreign policy experience.

If he is so well-versed in foreign policy, why are we still in Afghanistan, Iraq, and now Libya? And it's beginning to look a lot like our troops will be making a little trip to Syria sometime in the future.

Biden was only good for purposefully stalling conservative appointees in the Senate when he was there. He is evil, but with a smile. And that is the worst kind.

In short, "I ain't no Senator's son."

 

But you would rather cast a vote for a man (Obama) who has nothing but socialist/marxist friends? Oh brother.

 

It's funny, if the MSM hound-dogged the mesia even half as much as they did Palin then even Obama would claim he was born in Kenya just to get away.

As for Biden, he is just an insurance policy for Obama, I know he is the only reason I hope nothing bad happens to Barry!

 

Viva la SOCIALISM!!!

 

^^^ I sure hope so too.

I hate both parties equally but I'm starting to like Ron Paul's politics.

 

None of the nominees that we get are exactly exciting. Whenever I vote, I usually have to hold my nose and pick the lesser of two evils.

It is too bad that the really smart people don't run for office but the problem is that whoever is in office is beaten like a pinata. Few can say they have no skeletons in the closet and the media will beat any flaw to death. Thus anyone with half a brain stays out of the lion's den.

My two things that made McCain impossible to vote for was his stupidity in choosing Palin (which showed even more true after the election) and he planned to do the same thing Bush did.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different outcome.

 

Actually, yes they did get it going again in the early 2000's.

Yes and I don't want to rehash old arguement, but much of problem was programs designed to get people into houses who had no business owning houses to begin with.

If they followed the law they shouldn't go to jail. If on the other hand they failed to follow the law they should. With all of the required disclosures to purchase a house the people I've seen who should go to jail are those who lied to get loans and those who failed to read the paperwork relying on their salesman to give them the straight information. Unfortunately the latter was not against the law.

You are probably right, but I'm not interested in paying more taxes to the people who have failed to properly manage past finances until they show they are doing all they can to properly manage my money

I'm not shooting for 100% efficient, but her entire agency is designed to keep people dependent on the government. Not too mention her agency is duplicative of another one operated by the same department. They give loans to people who should not receive loans (the private market has already turned them down) for items they cannot afford. In the end they continue to come back asking for more money to pay for things they can not afford to have and only own as a result of a government give away. Her whole agency should be torn apart. The government could literally disband and fire all of the employees in her agency and move the functions over to the similar one and it would not increase their workload enough to justify hiring more people. I don't see the need for the mission of the agency as it has evolved because it does nothing to help the people it was intended to help. Drive through a Habitat for Humanity village. You will see relatively new houses that look like they are falling apart. The reason being is the people don't know how to take care of the buildings and even if they knew how they don't have the money to take care them. The reality is more times than not the person is better off renting than having the expense and headache of maintaining a house, but it is private money so they can do with it as they please.

 

Habitat homes are built by volunteers using cheap parts. They aren't going to be the same quality as a custom built home constructed by top contractors.

True many of these people shouldn't own homes. That said, salespeople became the gatekeepers for lenders instead of underwriters. The lenders knew what they were doing as did the brokers who packaged these crap loans up as securities. The government force this problem but lack of regulation allowed it to happen.

Again, until we both cut spending on all things including DEFENSE and the pay we give politicians along with sharp increases in taxes, we won't lower deficits and make headway with our debt.