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Old 05-11-2003 | 04:20 PM
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In responses to your requests!

The intake fabrication was only $1300.00 when it was all said and done.

I had it fabricated in Las Vegas, NV by a good engineering buddy of mine.

Since we've done all the leg work to make this happen we could duplicate this same set up for around $1,000 we will however need a donor 5.4 4V intake from a 2000-up Lincoln Navigator or Blackwood.

Most of you guys are located on either the east coast or the west coast so I've had to engineer to majority of my fabrications.

My 99 is not a daily driver but still retains A/C and could be driven a decent distance. I built it for a Street Strip nightmare.

You guys and gals can see my 99 in Topeka this fall when we all get together and run our SVT's Lightnings!

But until then unless you want to come to New Mexico and visit my shop then Pics are out of the question!

And to Rob_02Lightning

I own an environmental engineering and consulting business doing business strictly with oil & gas producers. This is what feeds my having a corral of Nice and Fast toys!
Not rich......just lots of Uncle Sam Free TOYS!

You guys are free to contact me anytime on how 2's with the 4V's
No Supporting Vendors Please!

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Old 05-11-2003 | 04:38 PM
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Where in NM?
 
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Old 05-11-2003 | 05:24 PM
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Mustangboy, IF I remember correctly weren't you on the way to SEMA last yr and get hit by a lady head on,on the hiway to Dam?A friend of mine was on the way there with a car to and he said something about a wreck around there with a dually and trailer.Stan
 
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Old 05-11-2003 | 05:42 PM
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Questions

Tim: How streetable would this combination be?

A secondary question: How much would my wife hate sitting in the cab?

Coldie
 
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Old 05-11-2003 | 05:43 PM
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Just an FYI - you'll need new pistons to go with the 4V heads as they have larger combustion chambers than the 2V heads.
 
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Old 05-11-2003 | 06:12 PM
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Tim- I would be very interested in seeing the performance of a truck with that engine. All I have to do is work another 1000 hours and then I can pay for it.
 
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Old 05-11-2003 | 07:59 PM
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Ruslow...

Yep.....

I totaled a almost new F550, my other enclosed car trailer and the 99.

Took almost 6-months to get back to where I am at now.

Insurance could not put a price on the 99 since most of the swap was done by myself and I have no receipts to show! But the F550 became a F350 Lariet, the other trailer Huge trailer became a 48-foot enclosed with living quarters and the 99 became one hell of a beast.

Drivability is great......but I built this truck for the street/strip...not road trips...I have other toys for long distance travels.....and a trailer for even longer trips LOL

Peace!

 
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Old 05-11-2003 | 10:24 PM
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i still don't see the point of the 4v heads on a lightning,

because of the long stroke you can't rev em to the moon like the cobra's, it's been proven on mustangs that 2v and 4v motors equally built with equal hp, the 2v makes more torque

don't get me wrong, i loved shifting my cobra at 7650 rpms, but i just can't see a lightning revving that high
 
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Old 05-11-2003 | 10:40 PM
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There are people with 2V heads making those times. Why should someone pay the big $$$ to get a 4valve setup if it doesn't perform noticeably better? Didn't JL run 1/2 second quicker last year than what you have listed with a KB, stock cams and 2V? It is nice that you guys are doing cool things like this, but is the pay off worth it? I mean why not just stick a built V-10 in the truck with a D1SC?
 
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Old 05-11-2003 | 11:17 PM
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Easter: Maybe he was running at high altitude with high humidity and high heat and crappy traction? Who knows?
you can do a bench racing comparison with NHRA corrected numbers, but the only true comparison would be running them side by side.

Edit: Crack at Easter removed, don't want this thread to go the same way as the REM exhaust thread did.
 

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Old 05-11-2003 | 11:24 PM
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Old 05-11-2003 | 11:38 PM
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I think the only way this thing is really going to take off is when REM (or any tuner) puts one in a truck and runs it.
 
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Old 05-11-2003 | 11:45 PM
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Easter, in addition your assuming that he is telling you everything (which I doubt)...but also it sounds like a work in progress. Im sure he is not where he wants to be, nor where he will end up. Ayrton is right, well all find out soon enough. This is going to be a great year.
 
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Old 05-12-2003 | 12:44 AM
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what a joke

well ,if you can't make decent hp out a 2 valve modular then you need to advertice or work with a 4 valve modular & screw all those smog law's anyway 750 hp out of a 4 valve with a supercharge doesn't sound like you have the combo there too.
 
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Old 05-12-2003 | 03:26 AM
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You can easily make 650 hp with just a 4.6 and a centrifugal.

Step up to a 5.4 and your easily talking 425 at the wheels with just motor. Add the blower on top of that and 750 is realistic.

03 Cobra motors are making over 600 with a kb.

However..

If your 5.4 dohc to eaton intake isnt properly engineered, its going to flow like *** and affect your hp.

also keep in mind, tuning with a Ford computer with a 5.4 dohc isnt going to be easy. Time to go DFI or FAST for tuning purposes.

Its easy to go from 360hp to 500.. However, each 100 hp after that becomes difficult without squeezing or serious $$.
 


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