Tolulene %
#31
I have been using Toluene for over a year now, every week as part of my fill up.
The equation to determine the octane level that I have been using is:
Lightning gas capacity is 25 gallons. So if I was to mix one gallon of Toluene to a full tank
Mathematically the overall octane would be;
(24 * 93) + (1 * 114) / 25 = 93.84
(“24” gallons of X “93” octane fuel) plus (number of gallons of Toluene I plan to use X the octane level of Toluene “114”) divided by the total capacity of the tank “25 gal = 93.84
The octane level can be changed to 92, 91 or even 87 “whatever.” As well as the number of gallons of Toluene you plan to use.
Now for the question, Do’s anybody know how to determine the actual octane level?? Do they make a kit?? (Something like a pool chlorine kit)
On the other hand, what is the process of the test?
I have also heard that there is a chemical that assists or reduces the attraction of the gasoline (carbon?) atoms, and it enhances combustion.
Mad scientist at work!! (By the way I use my riding lawnmower as the test vehicle, have not destroyed yet, however sometimes it wants to “fly”)
The equation to determine the octane level that I have been using is:
Lightning gas capacity is 25 gallons. So if I was to mix one gallon of Toluene to a full tank
Mathematically the overall octane would be;
(24 * 93) + (1 * 114) / 25 = 93.84
(“24” gallons of X “93” octane fuel) plus (number of gallons of Toluene I plan to use X the octane level of Toluene “114”) divided by the total capacity of the tank “25 gal = 93.84
The octane level can be changed to 92, 91 or even 87 “whatever.” As well as the number of gallons of Toluene you plan to use.
Now for the question, Do’s anybody know how to determine the actual octane level?? Do they make a kit?? (Something like a pool chlorine kit)
On the other hand, what is the process of the test?
I have also heard that there is a chemical that assists or reduces the attraction of the gasoline (carbon?) atoms, and it enhances combustion.
Mad scientist at work!! (By the way I use my riding lawnmower as the test vehicle, have not destroyed yet, however sometimes it wants to “fly”)
#32
Originally posted by oldfrmtrk
I have been using Toluene for over a year now, every week as part of my fill up.
The equation to determine the octane level that I have been using is:
Lightning gas capacity is 25 gallons. So if I was to mix one gallon of Toluene to a full tank
Mathematically the overall octane would be;
(24 * 93) + (1 * 114) / 25 = 93.84
(“24” gallons of X “93” octane fuel) plus (number of gallons of Toluene I plan to use X the octane level of Toluene “114”) divided by the total capacity of the tank “25 gal = 93.84
I have been using Toluene for over a year now, every week as part of my fill up.
The equation to determine the octane level that I have been using is:
Lightning gas capacity is 25 gallons. So if I was to mix one gallon of Toluene to a full tank
Mathematically the overall octane would be;
(24 * 93) + (1 * 114) / 25 = 93.84
(“24” gallons of X “93” octane fuel) plus (number of gallons of Toluene I plan to use X the octane level of Toluene “114”) divided by the total capacity of the tank “25 gal = 93.84
#38
MaxT I am interested too. How much costing for a drum? i presume you could ship it to Canada?
tbean@crystalglass.ca
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tbean@crystalglass.ca
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#39
Originally posted by terry bean
MaxT I am interested too. How much costing for a drum? i presume you could ship it to Canada?
tbean@crystalglass.ca
Thanks
MaxT I am interested too. How much costing for a drum? i presume you could ship it to Canada?
tbean@crystalglass.ca
Thanks
#40
#42
The only place that I have found it has been in the ACE hardware store.
A Quart goes for $ 3.10 thereabouts, a gallon container goes for $ 5.35. Now I special order (once per month) three to five, 5 gallons containers for about $23.50 or so each… If anybody is truly interested, I can get actual current prices and part numbers. Providing that there is an ACE hardware store in you’re area. I am uncertain if they are nation wide.
A Quart goes for $ 3.10 thereabouts, a gallon container goes for $ 5.35. Now I special order (once per month) three to five, 5 gallons containers for about $23.50 or so each… If anybody is truly interested, I can get actual current prices and part numbers. Providing that there is an ACE hardware store in you’re area. I am uncertain if they are nation wide.
#44
Can mothballs increase octane?
The legend of mothballs as an octane enhancer arose well before WWII when naphthalene was used as the active ingredient. Today, the majority of mothballs use para-dichlorobenzene in place of naphthalene, so choose carefully if you wish to experiment :-). There have been some concerns about the toxicity of para-dichlorobenzene, and naphthalene mothballs have again become popular. In the 1920s, typical gasoline octane ratings were 40-60 [11], and during the 1930s and 40s, the ratings increased by approximately 20 units as alkyl leads and improved refining processes became widespread [12].
Naphthalene has a blending motor octane number of 90 [52], so the addition of a significant amount of mothballs could increase the octane, and they were soluble in gasoline. The amount usually required to appreciably increase the octane also had some adverse effects. The most obvious was due to the high melting point ( 80C ), when the fuel evaporated the naphthalene would precipitate out, blocking jets and filters. With modern gasolines, naphthalene is more likely to reduce the octane rating, and the amount required for low octane fuels will also create operational and emissions problems.
Still trying to solve the "how to rate the level of octane in you're mix" and I ran in to this!!
The legend of mothballs as an octane enhancer arose well before WWII when naphthalene was used as the active ingredient. Today, the majority of mothballs use para-dichlorobenzene in place of naphthalene, so choose carefully if you wish to experiment :-). There have been some concerns about the toxicity of para-dichlorobenzene, and naphthalene mothballs have again become popular. In the 1920s, typical gasoline octane ratings were 40-60 [11], and during the 1930s and 40s, the ratings increased by approximately 20 units as alkyl leads and improved refining processes became widespread [12].
Naphthalene has a blending motor octane number of 90 [52], so the addition of a significant amount of mothballs could increase the octane, and they were soluble in gasoline. The amount usually required to appreciably increase the octane also had some adverse effects. The most obvious was due to the high melting point ( 80C ), when the fuel evaporated the naphthalene would precipitate out, blocking jets and filters. With modern gasolines, naphthalene is more likely to reduce the octane rating, and the amount required for low octane fuels will also create operational and emissions problems.
Still trying to solve the "how to rate the level of octane in you're mix" and I ran in to this!!
#45
ACE Hardware Stock numbers;
Their stock number for a 1 gallon size can is “457514; description is Tolulene Gal (Toluol) Can.” @ $6.39 per can.
Their stock number for a 5 gallon size can is “457140; description is Tolulene (Toluol) 5 Gal Can.” @ $29.99 per can.
Not much savings, but you can call ahead, and if they don’t have it they will order it for you..
Their stock number for a 1 gallon size can is “457514; description is Tolulene Gal (Toluol) Can.” @ $6.39 per can.
Their stock number for a 5 gallon size can is “457140; description is Tolulene (Toluol) 5 Gal Can.” @ $29.99 per can.
Not much savings, but you can call ahead, and if they don’t have it they will order it for you..