Thats exactly what i was thinking!

 

same here, and I'm a machinist BTW, for 26 years........

ps: I have dyno graphs from Embree, they're too big to post though....................

 

Obviously a machinist will do the porting.

BUT:
what does a AVERAGE machinist know about:

1. when the bearing are bad
2. when the seals are bad
3. when the nicks in the rotor create a dangerous/unsafe condition
4. the torque spec of the internal of the eaton
5. The extremely tight tolerances between the rotor packs
6. the extremely tight tolerances between the rotor packs and the wall.

Most these guys put a part in and when the CNC finishes it's cycle, they take it out, clean it off with an air gun and put it on a rack and place another part in, close the door and hit the start button.

CNC programmers now is another story.

While there are exceptions to the typical machinist, most the factories I have seen have machinists that have been running the same mill or lathe for the last 20 years. running the same or similar parts. Of course these were all production facilities, where quantity matters and they run 3 shifts.

Obviously machinists know how to port and polish, but they didn't do the R&D like Apten did.
The typical machinist doesn't know how to put together a NASCAR, or Nitrous injected funny car motor.

12leavu, I've given you props on your porting job. I wish I could do it, but I can't so I sent my S/C to the best place that can. APTEN.

 

curious:

when I go to
www.yellowpages.com

and type in EMBREE in St. Louis, MO I come up with this.

EMBREE PAUL ROOFING CONTRACTORS
5017 NORTHRUP AVE, SAINT LOUIS, MO 63110
Phone: (314) 865-1150



Is this the same Paul that is porting the eatons?
Is he a roofer? or machinist?

If not can you give the address or website so I can research EMBREE a little more.
The telephone number is useless.

when I do a reverse look up it says the telephone number is not found
http://info.yellowpages.com/asp/part...versephone.asp

curious............

 

Thanks man. But My answer is yes to all 6 of your questions. And I'm sure theres a whole lot more machinest smarter than me.

But what about the conventional machinest like me, where'd they go? CNC's haven't been out forever.
Any REAL machinest would agree. oh yeah, the guys you are talking about are called "part runners" not machinest.

 

here ya go wiseguy:
http://www.bluetonguemotorsports.com/index.html

 

All I gotta say is things will change in a few months. There will be more companys out there porting Eatons, and the price will come way down. I have one apart right now having the big cuts being done(porting), and when I get it back I will do all the smoothing(polishing) myself. There is nothing hard to it; the blower pulls apart with only a handfull of bolts. If you know how to do it will pull apart without even spilling any oil. Then tape the bearings off to keep anything from getting into them. Cut and grind away; It's aluminum so it will be easy. Clean everything up; maybe add a little grease to the bearings in the back of the case, and back to geather it goes. There is nothing to line up; everything self centers as it goes back togeather. Someone that has done it a few times could do it in a couple hours. Expect to see ported Eatons in the $300 price range. All this don't show pictures of my work is to keep the competition out for as long as possible

 

I believe I read somewhere that a good hand port job was being offered by a reputable vender for $299. Any qualified comments on this?

 

That would be REM; it's ok, but now like what everyone will be doing in the near future.

 

NO, just sprerading the info around...When I got my blower done, I paid more than $400.00 from Embree before the fall out with Apten and the price war.....

Are you a spokeman for Apten??

 

For those who may be unaware of it, an "apprentice machinest" is required to take and pass over 3 years of classes in mechanics, metals, extensive mathematics, and all practice and theory on machining tools - before he/she is considered a "journeyman machinest". Although it's true than many machinests in large factories, may find themselves running a lathe or another tool for years - a "competent machinest" with experience, can design, repair, and rebuild almost anything. A competent experienced machinest, who has worked on engines, knows all about bearings and bearing fit. Whenever I could, when I took work in to a shop - the first thing I looked for was their "machinest" experience.