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Old 02-25-2004 | 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by easterisland
It won't fit an eaton because the KB has an opening which is twice as big as the eaton. No you can't have it ported to fit.


Thanks Easter for the clarification....
 
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Old 02-25-2004 | 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by LightningTuner
Please explain the physics behind this new plenum. You're still drawing air through the same size TB opening, yet the plenum is twice the size of that opening. How have you managed to alter the laws of physics and make the air multiply after it passes the much smaller TB opening to take advantage of this plenum?

Looks like the Vendor wars continue



I will let JLP answer but if I had to guess, I would say the TB isnt the Bottleneck in the system, its the stock upper plenum. Kinda the way a Bullit intake moves more air than a SVO Intake but use the same TB on a Mustang.
 
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Old 02-25-2004 | 09:24 PM
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im guessing because you dont have to use a restrictor plate thats on the KB

dont quote, i dont know much about KB's
 
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Old 02-25-2004 | 09:33 PM
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quote:Originally posted by LightningTuner
Please explain the physics behind this new plenum. You're still drawing air through the same size TB opening, yet the plenum is twice the size of that opening. How have you managed to alter the laws of physics and make the air multiply after it passes the much smaller TB opening to take advantage of this plenum?


Looks like the Vendor wars continue



I will let JLP answer but if I had to guess, I would say the TB isnt the Bottleneck in the system, its the stock upper plenum. Kinda the way a Bullit intake moves more air than a SVO Intake but use the same TB on a Mustang.

Yes i have to agree,Big Fan..

We @ JLP are not trying to mislead anyone... We have made over 720 RWHP and 870 Trq! @23-24# of Boost @ the wheels without NO2!.. before we used the full opening of the KB we used a 2.7 upper pulley to make that 23- 24#, with the bigger plenum we used a 3.0 pulley and made 24# of boost. we tried the 2.7 and it went pass the 26# level and we ran into some ignition problems. which we are working on. We'll have the truck on our dyno here shortly with some NO2! .If all goes well that 720 RWHP will be a thing of the past along with our 10.4 ET..I'll stress if all goes well.. JL
 
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Old 02-25-2004 | 09:50 PM
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It looks like it has some potential, and I might be interested.

For me it needs to have a EGR setup, and some cosmetic tweeking.

While I want all the performance I can get, my truck is still sort of a show truck, so the way it looks is very important to me.

 
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Old 02-25-2004 | 09:55 PM
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YOU people are the ones who start "vendor wars". I asked a perfectly legit question, and out of respect to JLs thread, I left my signature off. If I were just any old Lightning owner without a competing business, I would have still asked that same question.
 
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Old 02-25-2004 | 09:56 PM
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Johnny
It looks like it has some potential, and I might be interested.

For me it needs to have a EGR setup, and some cosmetic tweeking.

While I want all the performance I can get, my truck is still sort of a show truck, so the way it looks is very important to me.

In other words, he thinks it's FUGLY! hahahaha!
 
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Old 02-25-2004 | 09:59 PM
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Nice Work....and your right the KB is starving for air. The adapter plate that comes stock is all wrong.

We are not talking volume here we are talking flow redirection.

For what its worth I have built something similar but with a twist, I put a full length devider in my plenum to keep as much air to the drivers side of the blower as possible. Why ? cause the left side rotor is much more aggresive than the right side and WILL move more air if you feed it right.....this is just a simple observation, some peaple can see it and some can't
Dale
 
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Old 02-25-2004 | 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by LightningTuner
YOU people are the ones who start "vendor wars".
I agree; nothing wrong with a little skepticism.

-Mike
 
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Old 02-25-2004 | 10:01 PM
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I personally like the custom "sheetmetal" intake look. Very nice piece!

Pushing that kind of boost, it has to make more power. Volume is the key with those numbers.
 
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Old 02-25-2004 | 10:33 PM
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In other words, he thinks it's FUGLY! hahahaha!
I don't think that is the case. KNowing Don, I think it is more of a case of it needs a big huge CNC machined "Dons Bolt" emblem on it! Hahahaha! Sorry Don, I couldn't resist!

Maybe a blue stripe?
 
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Old 02-25-2004 | 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by 99svtlightning
I personally like the custom "sheetmetal" intake look.
i believe at some point the throttle body will be the restriction, thats why i'm blowing through mine instead of sucking. i also think with the big boost JL is lokking at the shear volume will help.
 
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Old 02-25-2004 | 10:49 PM
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I believe at some point the throttle body will be the restriction, thats why i'm blowing through mine instead of sucking.
Yep, that is why the intake of a centrifugal like the novi 2000 is 4" so it can take in enough air.
 
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Old 02-25-2004 | 11:09 PM
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Couple of questions/opinions Johnny

Number one please explain to us Eaton owners
why it DOES NOT fit an Eaton, when a KB uses the same
manifold as a stock Eaton???

Originally posted by JohnnyLightning
This plenum bolts directly to the KB unit without using the (restrictor plate)
Is this the reason ? Is this restrictor plate a transition piece
between the KB opening and bolt pattern, to the original opening
and bolt pattern ???? ( GOT TO BE I GUESS ??? )

Second, NICE JOB JOHNNY, I love seeing new Products and Designs that'll push the envelope even more for you ten second Brothers + Vendors out there making us ALL proud. New designs help us all in the big picture and I commend you for bringing us to new levels.

I truly Love the bling look and design of the your big bad upper,
WOW LET IT BE WRITTEN BBU='s JOHNNY'S BIG BAD UPPER
ok ok I'll stop with the Abbrev's, hehehehe

Being a walking Zex Commercial myself, I bet that awesome little zex system works as flawless on your SOON TO BE 9 SEC BEAST, as it does on my little stock block 11 sec Beast.


Lastly,
J, will that be the final design look of the welding ?

Oh and BTW,
You know I wear your Colors with pride, and boast @ my JLP products and tuning But when I blow it up this year pushing it past it's limits, can I tow it down to your place, sleep in the cab and help install my new JLP Motor and get in and out in a few days, PAL.
 
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Old 02-25-2004 | 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by Rob_02Lightning
[B]Couple of questions/opinions Johnny

Number one please explain to us Eaton owners
why it DOES NOT fit an Eaton, when a KB uses the same
manifold as a stock Eaton???

Is this the reason ? Is this restrictor plate a transition piece
between the KB opening and bolt pattern, to the original opening
and bolt pattern ???? ( GOT TO BE I GUESS ??? )
you answered your own question. i'm sure somebody has a picture of the difference some where.
 


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