New Jlp *full Force* Upper Plenum
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#17
Originally posted by LightningTuner
Please explain the physics behind this new plenum. You're still drawing air through the same size TB opening, yet the plenum is twice the size of that opening. How have you managed to alter the laws of physics and make the air multiply after it passes the much smaller TB opening to take advantage of this plenum?
Please explain the physics behind this new plenum. You're still drawing air through the same size TB opening, yet the plenum is twice the size of that opening. How have you managed to alter the laws of physics and make the air multiply after it passes the much smaller TB opening to take advantage of this plenum?
Looks like the Vendor wars continue
I will let JLP answer but if I had to guess, I would say the TB isnt the Bottleneck in the system, its the stock upper plenum. Kinda the way a Bullit intake moves more air than a SVO Intake but use the same TB on a Mustang.
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quote:Originally posted by LightningTuner
Please explain the physics behind this new plenum. You're still drawing air through the same size TB opening, yet the plenum is twice the size of that opening. How have you managed to alter the laws of physics and make the air multiply after it passes the much smaller TB opening to take advantage of this plenum?
Looks like the Vendor wars continue
I will let JLP answer but if I had to guess, I would say the TB isnt the Bottleneck in the system, its the stock upper plenum. Kinda the way a Bullit intake moves more air than a SVO Intake but use the same TB on a Mustang.
Yes i have to agree,Big Fan..
We @ JLP are not trying to mislead anyone... We have made over 720 RWHP and 870 Trq! @23-24# of Boost @ the wheels without NO2!.. before we used the full opening of the KB we used a 2.7 upper pulley to make that 23- 24#, with the bigger plenum we used a 3.0 pulley and made 24# of boost. we tried the 2.7 and it went pass the 26# level and we ran into some ignition problems. which we are working on. We'll have the truck on our dyno here shortly with some NO2! .If all goes well that 720 RWHP will be a thing of the past along with our 10.4 ET..I'll stress if all goes well.. JL
Please explain the physics behind this new plenum. You're still drawing air through the same size TB opening, yet the plenum is twice the size of that opening. How have you managed to alter the laws of physics and make the air multiply after it passes the much smaller TB opening to take advantage of this plenum?
Looks like the Vendor wars continue
I will let JLP answer but if I had to guess, I would say the TB isnt the Bottleneck in the system, its the stock upper plenum. Kinda the way a Bullit intake moves more air than a SVO Intake but use the same TB on a Mustang.
Yes i have to agree,Big Fan..
We @ JLP are not trying to mislead anyone... We have made over 720 RWHP and 870 Trq! @23-24# of Boost @ the wheels without NO2!.. before we used the full opening of the KB we used a 2.7 upper pulley to make that 23- 24#, with the bigger plenum we used a 3.0 pulley and made 24# of boost. we tried the 2.7 and it went pass the 26# level and we ran into some ignition problems. which we are working on. We'll have the truck on our dyno here shortly with some NO2! .If all goes well that 720 RWHP will be a thing of the past along with our 10.4 ET..I'll stress if all goes well.. JL
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#22
Originally posted by Don's Bolt
Johnny
It looks like it has some potential, and I might be interested.
For me it needs to have a EGR setup, and some cosmetic tweeking.
While I want all the performance I can get, my truck is still sort of a show truck, so the way it looks is very important to me.
Johnny
It looks like it has some potential, and I might be interested.
For me it needs to have a EGR setup, and some cosmetic tweeking.
While I want all the performance I can get, my truck is still sort of a show truck, so the way it looks is very important to me.
#23
Johnny
Nice Work....and your right the KB is starving for air. The adapter plate that comes stock is all wrong.
We are not talking volume here we are talking flow redirection.
For what its worth I have built something similar but with a twist, I put a full length devider in my plenum to keep as much air to the drivers side of the blower as possible. Why ? cause the left side rotor is much more aggresive than the right side and WILL move more air if you feed it right.....this is just a simple observation, some peaple can see it and some can't
Dale
Nice Work....and your right the KB is starving for air. The adapter plate that comes stock is all wrong.
We are not talking volume here we are talking flow redirection.
For what its worth I have built something similar but with a twist, I put a full length devider in my plenum to keep as much air to the drivers side of the blower as possible. Why ? cause the left side rotor is much more aggresive than the right side and WILL move more air if you feed it right.....this is just a simple observation, some peaple can see it and some can't
Dale
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#27
Originally posted by 99svtlightning
I personally like the custom "sheetmetal" intake look.
I personally like the custom "sheetmetal" intake look.
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#29
Couple of questions/opinions Johnny
Number one please explain to us Eaton owners
why it DOES NOT fit an Eaton, when a KB uses the same
manifold as a stock Eaton???
Is this the reason ? Is this restrictor plate a transition piece
between the KB opening and bolt pattern, to the original opening
and bolt pattern ???? ( GOT TO BE I GUESS ??? )
Second, NICE JOB JOHNNY, I love seeing new Products and Designs that'll push the envelope even more for you ten second Brothers + Vendors out there making us ALL proud. New designs help us all in the big picture and I commend you for bringing us to new levels.
I truly Love the bling look and design of the your big bad upper,
WOW LET IT BE WRITTEN BBU='s JOHNNY'S BIG BAD UPPER
ok ok I'll stop with the Abbrev's, hehehehe
Being a walking Zex Commercial myself, I bet that awesome little zex system works as flawless on your SOON TO BE 9 SEC BEAST, as it does on my little stock block 11 sec Beast.
Lastly,
J, will that be the final design look of the welding ?
Oh and BTW,
You know I wear your Colors with pride, and boast @ my JLP products and tuning But when I blow it up this year pushing it past it's limits, can I tow it down to your place, sleep in the cab and help install my new JLP Motor and get in and out in a few days, PAL.
Number one please explain to us Eaton owners
why it DOES NOT fit an Eaton, when a KB uses the same
manifold as a stock Eaton???
Originally posted by JohnnyLightning
This plenum bolts directly to the KB unit without using the (restrictor plate)
This plenum bolts directly to the KB unit without using the (restrictor plate)
between the KB opening and bolt pattern, to the original opening
and bolt pattern ???? ( GOT TO BE I GUESS ??? )
Second, NICE JOB JOHNNY, I love seeing new Products and Designs that'll push the envelope even more for you ten second Brothers + Vendors out there making us ALL proud. New designs help us all in the big picture and I commend you for bringing us to new levels.
I truly Love the bling look and design of the your big bad upper,
WOW LET IT BE WRITTEN BBU='s JOHNNY'S BIG BAD UPPER
ok ok I'll stop with the Abbrev's, hehehehe
Being a walking Zex Commercial myself, I bet that awesome little zex system works as flawless on your SOON TO BE 9 SEC BEAST, as it does on my little stock block 11 sec Beast.
Lastly,
J, will that be the final design look of the welding ?
Oh and BTW,
You know I wear your Colors with pride, and boast @ my JLP products and tuning But when I blow it up this year pushing it past it's limits, can I tow it down to your place, sleep in the cab and help install my new JLP Motor and get in and out in a few days, PAL.
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Originally posted by Rob_02Lightning
[B]Couple of questions/opinions Johnny
Number one please explain to us Eaton owners
why it DOES NOT fit an Eaton, when a KB uses the same
manifold as a stock Eaton???
Is this the reason ? Is this restrictor plate a transition piece
between the KB opening and bolt pattern, to the original opening
and bolt pattern ???? ( GOT TO BE I GUESS ??? )
[B]Couple of questions/opinions Johnny
Number one please explain to us Eaton owners
why it DOES NOT fit an Eaton, when a KB uses the same
manifold as a stock Eaton???
Is this the reason ? Is this restrictor plate a transition piece
between the KB opening and bolt pattern, to the original opening
and bolt pattern ???? ( GOT TO BE I GUESS ??? )