Hi Flow Catalytic converters falling apart (broken and rattling) after 1 year
#1
Hi Flow Catalytic converters falling apart (broken and rattling) after 1 year
Well, I was pulling across an intersection last night, driving easy, just crossing the street to get to a gas station and the motor starts rattling!
I am like HOLY SHEET! it sounded just like a rod/bearing knock, the knocking/rattling noise came and went in direct relation to engine speed.
I thought at first that my motor was coming apart, but I pulled into the gas station parking lot and it appears as if at least one of my "HI FLOW" catalytic converters has broken.
It sounds like the catalyst or "brick" is just bouncing around inside the housing. it sounds like CRAP. feel like I'm driving a junker. I drove straight home and parked it, it's a beautiful day today, I'd love to go for a cruise but it would be too embarassing.
the cats are the "carsound" brand. I have heard reports of others having this same problem, so I guess I should have known it was coming.
These cats were part of the JDM full exhaust that I bought last year. it was THE FIRST performance modification that I installed. My post on the installation was done on January 10th, so my truck was less than two weeks old when I installed the headers and exhaust.
the truck was parked in my garage from late last November until March of this year while I was building the new motor. So as far as driving time, the cats lasted a whopping 12 months of actual use!
to others who have had this failure, is there any warranty?
I know factory equipped converters are by law warrantied for 8yrs/80,000 miles. does the same apply to aftermarket cats? even if that were the case, I'm not sure I would want to reinstall these on my truck.
it's bad enough, that I'll have to hack up the exhaust to install them, but then what? I do it AGAIN next year when they fail on me again???
Does anybody know of a better catalytic converter to replace with?
I know bassani has had lots of problems with the cats they were using in their products. I swear I think I saw on TV the other day where they had released a new high flow cat that was supposed to be more durable and superior to what is currently available.
isn't high performance fun...
$1700 exhaust.
later,
chris
I am like HOLY SHEET! it sounded just like a rod/bearing knock, the knocking/rattling noise came and went in direct relation to engine speed.
I thought at first that my motor was coming apart, but I pulled into the gas station parking lot and it appears as if at least one of my "HI FLOW" catalytic converters has broken.
It sounds like the catalyst or "brick" is just bouncing around inside the housing. it sounds like CRAP. feel like I'm driving a junker. I drove straight home and parked it, it's a beautiful day today, I'd love to go for a cruise but it would be too embarassing.
the cats are the "carsound" brand. I have heard reports of others having this same problem, so I guess I should have known it was coming.
These cats were part of the JDM full exhaust that I bought last year. it was THE FIRST performance modification that I installed. My post on the installation was done on January 10th, so my truck was less than two weeks old when I installed the headers and exhaust.
the truck was parked in my garage from late last November until March of this year while I was building the new motor. So as far as driving time, the cats lasted a whopping 12 months of actual use!
to others who have had this failure, is there any warranty?
I know factory equipped converters are by law warrantied for 8yrs/80,000 miles. does the same apply to aftermarket cats? even if that were the case, I'm not sure I would want to reinstall these on my truck.
it's bad enough, that I'll have to hack up the exhaust to install them, but then what? I do it AGAIN next year when they fail on me again???
Does anybody know of a better catalytic converter to replace with?
I know bassani has had lots of problems with the cats they were using in their products. I swear I think I saw on TV the other day where they had released a new high flow cat that was supposed to be more durable and superior to what is currently available.
isn't high performance fun...
$1700 exhaust.
later,
chris
Last edited by superfords; 06-06-2004 at 12:58 PM.
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superfords,
You're right about the Bassanis. I had a four-year old cat X-pipe on my Cobra that had the same thing happen and I did exactly what you did - drove straight home out of embarrassment.
I got a new Bassani with the new cats and they appear to be superior as they are no longer ceramic but are a metal "grid" that's probably plated with the catalyst. I would be very surprised if these fail.
NakMan
You're right about the Bassanis. I had a four-year old cat X-pipe on my Cobra that had the same thing happen and I did exactly what you did - drove straight home out of embarrassment.
I got a new Bassani with the new cats and they appear to be superior as they are no longer ceramic but are a metal "grid" that's probably plated with the catalyst. I would be very surprised if these fail.
NakMan
#3
DynaTech makes a mettalic substrate Powercat that is suppose to be more durable than the ceramic cats. I'm running these on my car, but just installed them in Feb.
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/powercat.htm
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/powercat.htm
Last edited by Stl01SVT; 06-06-2004 at 01:31 PM.
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I'm having the same problem with my Car Sound cats, Chris. It knocks in relation with the rpm's and sounds like I broke something in the engine. When this started, I wasn't even running it hard, just driving around town having a good old time and BAM, all of a sudden my heart fell down into my stomach.
Is there anything worth a crap anymore?
Tim @ Chikenears
Is there anything worth a crap anymore?
Tim @ Chikenears
#5
There was a similar post a while back with the same problem. JDM's response was that a lean tune melted the cats. Seems unlikely to me.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...ght=melted+cat
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...ght=melted+cat
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...ght=melted+cat
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...ght=melted+cat
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Chris
I don't know how you can stand the drone or the sound of that system anyway. I say cut off everything from the headers back and start fresh
This is also you opportunity to make the cats quick change. Put some V-band clamps on them so they are easily changed with a straight thru bullet muffler or a straight pipe. You know strictly for off road purposes
Dale
I don't know how you can stand the drone or the sound of that system anyway. I say cut off everything from the headers back and start fresh
This is also you opportunity to make the cats quick change. Put some V-band clamps on them so they are easily changed with a straight thru bullet muffler or a straight pipe. You know strictly for off road purposes
Dale
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Originally posted by rscoleman
There was a similar post a while back with the same problem. JDM's response was that a lean tune melted the cats. Seems unlikely to me.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...ght=melted+cat
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...ght=melted+cat
There was a similar post a while back with the same problem. JDM's response was that a lean tune melted the cats. Seems unlikely to me.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...ght=melted+cat
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...ght=melted+cat
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Re: Hi Flow Catalytic converters falling apart (broken and rattling) after 1 year
Originally posted by superfords
Does anybody know of a better catalytic converter to replace with?
later,
chris
Does anybody know of a better catalytic converter to replace with?
later,
chris