So far the Mag and 60's are awesome......
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So far the Mag and 60's are awesome......
I'm not interested in getting into another Injector or SC dispute, so lets NOT.
I just want to give my re-visited opinion on the Mag and now with the 60's
First off I really got to start listening to people about NOT getting too tied up in the Dyno results, or more important the Peak Numbers. It's the overall picture that counts, where's the extra power, what RPM band, and can I use it. Sometimes it's more about Tq, sometimes it's more about HP, but it's ALWAYS about the flow of the Chart.
But to put that all behind for one second I got to say this,
The Mag DEF feels Stronger
It DEF sounds awesome, MUCH Better Whine, the way it should sound
And "the seat of the pants meter" DEF hits higher numbers
So far so good meaning I've been checking plugs ramdamly and they always look great. So far Cylinder 1, (that use to constantly burn plugs) looks exactly like the others, they ALL look the same, and they ALL are burning the same, 3 things that were NOT happening before.
I've driving it more in the last 4 days than prob the last 4 months, and the last two days have seen many WOT blast, over 20lbs of boost, and so far I'm still runnning on all 8, WOO HOO
I ain't saying ALL my troubles are behind, but after so many months of disappointments, this is clearly the best I've seen yet. The Truck is idling like a dream come true, responding instantly, feeling much stronger in the mid range, and the WHINE is just outright amazing at WOT 20lbs or more of screaming Boost.
I am now going to take it to work, AND DRIVE IT LIKE I STOLE IT
I just want to give my re-visited opinion on the Mag and now with the 60's
First off I really got to start listening to people about NOT getting too tied up in the Dyno results, or more important the Peak Numbers. It's the overall picture that counts, where's the extra power, what RPM band, and can I use it. Sometimes it's more about Tq, sometimes it's more about HP, but it's ALWAYS about the flow of the Chart.
But to put that all behind for one second I got to say this,
The Mag DEF feels Stronger
It DEF sounds awesome, MUCH Better Whine, the way it should sound
And "the seat of the pants meter" DEF hits higher numbers
So far so good meaning I've been checking plugs ramdamly and they always look great. So far Cylinder 1, (that use to constantly burn plugs) looks exactly like the others, they ALL look the same, and they ALL are burning the same, 3 things that were NOT happening before.
I've driving it more in the last 4 days than prob the last 4 months, and the last two days have seen many WOT blast, over 20lbs of boost, and so far I'm still runnning on all 8, WOO HOO
I ain't saying ALL my troubles are behind, but after so many months of disappointments, this is clearly the best I've seen yet. The Truck is idling like a dream come true, responding instantly, feeling much stronger in the mid range, and the WHINE is just outright amazing at WOT 20lbs or more of screaming Boost.
I am now going to take it to work, AND DRIVE IT LIKE I STOLE IT
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Originally Posted by svtandy
hey rob, what exactly are your mods on the built motor?
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well that's pretty interesting because it's pretty close to what I am running:
Magnum Powers, 2.7" upper, 9.0" lower, kooks long tubes, highflow cats, custom catback(magnaflow x-pipe into to dynomax bullets & out the stock tips), E-fan, 60lb SD injectors, MAFia, 14" metco cone filter(rubbermaid heat shield ), TR-6 plugs gapped at .31, EGR removed, FTVB, Predator custom tune by RWTD on 93 octane, I also port matched the upper intake to the magnum's intake.
everything else is stock in the engine & tranny. I am still waiting for my new tune for all the new stuff I put on, when I get this monster tuned I will post up numbers. should be interesting.
the couple things I don't have are: MP idler, SBTB, C&L upper plenum, and 6 vice 8 lb lower.
Magnum Powers, 2.7" upper, 9.0" lower, kooks long tubes, highflow cats, custom catback(magnaflow x-pipe into to dynomax bullets & out the stock tips), E-fan, 60lb SD injectors, MAFia, 14" metco cone filter(rubbermaid heat shield ), TR-6 plugs gapped at .31, EGR removed, FTVB, Predator custom tune by RWTD on 93 octane, I also port matched the upper intake to the magnum's intake.
everything else is stock in the engine & tranny. I am still waiting for my new tune for all the new stuff I put on, when I get this monster tuned I will post up numbers. should be interesting.
the couple things I don't have are: MP idler, SBTB, C&L upper plenum, and 6 vice 8 lb lower.
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Thanks Guys
I may be jumping the gun by assuming (got knows I stick my foot in my *** daily) but THERE IS NO DOUBT the Spark Plugs are burning and looking and lasting better than EVER before SO FAR. And I'm still running on all 8.
I know that doesn't seem like a biggy to most of you, but for me it's a frigging mile stone I tell you
Sal built me an amazing motor, and no issues have been related to anything he's done since day one. It was my cheap *** that decided we could use the stock heads and cams, it was my cheap *** who wanted to save a few bucks and went for the smaller Injectors, and it was my *** that assumed I could boost the schitt out of it and reach 500 HP.
SO I guess I have no one to blame but myself for the 6 months of living hell I've gone through. But if not anything else, we ALL learned something here, and hopefully YOU wont make the same mistakes.
YA AT MY EXPENSE, (@$^%@$%@($%@$ ARE YOU ALL HAPPY NOW
The Mag got a lot of negative feedback when I took it off, and yes the Ported Wasp showed some pretty amazing results that had us all thinking.
But the Mag always had more power in the upper RPM's and the day I switched them I DEF felt a lose of power, as time went on I KNEW I had lost some power, and since I put the Mag back on, I KNOW I got it back.
It's only fair I tell that, as I have my other results.
There is not a doubt in my mind since my truck is making over 580 SAE TQ from the second you stab it, that the 444 HP is not correct, and "is" low.
Since TQ starts at the MAx and drops off in the Upper RPM, But HP starts Low and rises in the Upper RPM's, it's all starting to make sense.
The Springs WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED and until I do I may still have some Porc Cracking issues, but it does appear I have finally got past the plug melting and burning, and identified the prob.
Can I race it like this ?
I guess we'll find out
I may be jumping the gun by assuming (got knows I stick my foot in my *** daily) but THERE IS NO DOUBT the Spark Plugs are burning and looking and lasting better than EVER before SO FAR. And I'm still running on all 8.
I know that doesn't seem like a biggy to most of you, but for me it's a frigging mile stone I tell you
Sal built me an amazing motor, and no issues have been related to anything he's done since day one. It was my cheap *** that decided we could use the stock heads and cams, it was my cheap *** who wanted to save a few bucks and went for the smaller Injectors, and it was my *** that assumed I could boost the schitt out of it and reach 500 HP.
SO I guess I have no one to blame but myself for the 6 months of living hell I've gone through. But if not anything else, we ALL learned something here, and hopefully YOU wont make the same mistakes.
YA AT MY EXPENSE, (@$^%@$%@($%@$ ARE YOU ALL HAPPY NOW
The Mag got a lot of negative feedback when I took it off, and yes the Ported Wasp showed some pretty amazing results that had us all thinking.
But the Mag always had more power in the upper RPM's and the day I switched them I DEF felt a lose of power, as time went on I KNEW I had lost some power, and since I put the Mag back on, I KNOW I got it back.
It's only fair I tell that, as I have my other results.
There is not a doubt in my mind since my truck is making over 580 SAE TQ from the second you stab it, that the 444 HP is not correct, and "is" low.
Since TQ starts at the MAx and drops off in the Upper RPM, But HP starts Low and rises in the Upper RPM's, it's all starting to make sense.
The Springs WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED and until I do I may still have some Porc Cracking issues, but it does appear I have finally got past the plug melting and burning, and identified the prob.
Can I race it like this ?
I guess we'll find out
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Glad to see you running well again. Get some baseline numbers at a track before introducing the nitrous and save yourself some headaches.
I know you left 60hp or better by keeping the stock heads, but your plan was to make that up by using a large shot of juice. When all is said and done I am willing to bet your #s will approach your original goals.
Mine is still in the shop (went inside today) but I will be around the tracks to check out the progress.
Jim
I know you left 60hp or better by keeping the stock heads, but your plan was to make that up by using a large shot of juice. When all is said and done I am willing to bet your #s will approach your original goals.
Mine is still in the shop (went inside today) but I will be around the tracks to check out the progress.
Jim