Navigator Wheel on a Lightning
#17
Originally Posted by awhittle
Kill your traction -1 (undocumented)
Kill your stopping distance -1 (undocumented)
Kill your looks -1 (subjective)
At 48 my ability to "smoke the tires" or "get hook" is fairly insignificant. Stopping distance is more a function of brake pad choice and tire compound and a Lightning is realy not known for is ability to stop more than once. If you want to stop buy a car with the motor in the back that weights about 3500 lbs less. If you want a darn good tow vehical to pull a 4000 lb ski boat or your 800 lb 450 hp racecar and the next weekend pull the jetskis to the Lake, get a Lightning. Nothing else comes close.
Kill your stopping distance -1 (undocumented)
Kill your looks -1 (subjective)
At 48 my ability to "smoke the tires" or "get hook" is fairly insignificant. Stopping distance is more a function of brake pad choice and tire compound and a Lightning is realy not known for is ability to stop more than once. If you want to stop buy a car with the motor in the back that weights about 3500 lbs less. If you want a darn good tow vehical to pull a 4000 lb ski boat or your 800 lb 450 hp racecar and the next weekend pull the jetskis to the Lake, get a Lightning. Nothing else comes close.
So...
If I need a car that can stop it needs to weigh 1,100lbs and have an engine in the rear? Which go-kart would you recomend?
I think that statement is a bit (undocumented)
#19
Originally Posted by awhittle
Kill your traction -1 (undocumented)
Kill your stopping distance -1 (undocumented)
Kill your looks -1 (subjective)
At 48 my ability to "smoke the tires" or "get hook" is fairly insignificant. Stopping distance is more a function of brake pad choice and tire compound and a Lightning is realy not known for is ability to stop more than once. If you want to stop buy a car with the motor in the back that weights about 3500 lbs less. If you want a darn good tow vehical to pull a 4000 lb ski boat or your 800 lb 450 hp racecar and the next weekend pull the jetskis to the Lake, get a Lightning. Nothing else comes close.
Kill your stopping distance -1 (undocumented)
Kill your looks -1 (subjective)
At 48 my ability to "smoke the tires" or "get hook" is fairly insignificant. Stopping distance is more a function of brake pad choice and tire compound and a Lightning is realy not known for is ability to stop more than once. If you want to stop buy a car with the motor in the back that weights about 3500 lbs less. If you want a darn good tow vehical to pull a 4000 lb ski boat or your 800 lb 450 hp racecar and the next weekend pull the jetskis to the Lake, get a Lightning. Nothing else comes close.
lightning was geared for racing. If it was geared for towing SVT wouldn't have drag days, they would have tractor pulls.
#20
This is the car I have been working on lately. This one weighs 1025#. Mine should be under 900 have 50% more hp. If you need a diesel to tow, your racecar is too fat and it will never pull two geez in a parking lot. The goal on my new car is two geez in all four directions at 60 mph. And yes I do have a 125 shifter kart. I like a CRG.
http://www.msefi.com/viewtopic.php?t=12122
AW
http://www.msefi.com/viewtopic.php?t=12122
AW
Last edited by awhittle; 11-13-2005 at 08:34 AM.
#21
Originally Posted by Disintegr8or
Why not use four steel spare rims? I am sure they are lighter than those Navigator pieces? Hell, go nuts and spray them silver if you want to.
your "sure" of that ...are ya
16X7 steel spare = 32 lbs
16X7 99 Nav wheel = 21 lbs
nice uninformed post Disintegr8or ......do you have any other useless words of wisdom ?
#22
I've used that set up for the winter but cornering and high speed stability really suffers. Z rated tires really make the vehicle. If you take a Corvette and you put tall side wall Q rated tires, you end up with a quick straight line Buick...
I have a 1976 Cadillac Coupe the Ville that you would absolutely adore. Lol
TB
I have a 1976 Cadillac Coupe the Ville that you would absolutely adore. Lol
TB
#23
see http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...jsp?type=SSTAS
There are fairly huge compromizes made in designing a tire to get a Z rating. The side wall of the tire have to be made very stiff to keep heat from destroying the tire, resulting in tread seperation. Just Google Firestone "tread seperation" If speed ratings are a big concern and going in the snow is not, then look at the Kumho ECSTA STX
There are fairly huge compromizes made in designing a tire to get a Z rating. The side wall of the tire have to be made very stiff to keep heat from destroying the tire, resulting in tread seperation. Just Google Firestone "tread seperation" If speed ratings are a big concern and going in the snow is not, then look at the Kumho ECSTA STX
Last edited by awhittle; 11-13-2005 at 02:05 PM.
#25
After driving the truck on this setup, I would have no intrest going back. The only thing I would considder is going to 16x8 but I would think the number of wheels that will clear the brakes and be rated for this sort of weight would be limited. The wheels that I puchased were advertised on Ebay as Navigator 17x8 but when they arived the turned out to be 16x7. I was suprised that they fit and then started looking for options in a 16 inch tire. Apparently 255-55-16 is a common tire size. The reason I started this thread was to inform people that where is a better option for a truck driven 20000 miles a year in the midwest where it can be 70 on Sunday and a foot on snow can fall on Monday.
AW
AW
#26
Originally Posted by awhittle
see http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...jsp?type=SSTAS
There are fairly huge compromizes made in designing a tire to get a Z rating. The side wall of the tire have to be made very stiff to keep heat from destroying the tire, resulting in tread seperation. Just Google Firestone "tread seperation" If speed ratings are a big concern and going in the snow is not, then look at the Kumho ECSTA STX
There are fairly huge compromizes made in designing a tire to get a Z rating. The side wall of the tire have to be made very stiff to keep heat from destroying the tire, resulting in tread seperation. Just Google Firestone "tread seperation" If speed ratings are a big concern and going in the snow is not, then look at the Kumho ECSTA STX
I did a search last week, in our size in 18", there is no better tire available for all around performance than the F-1. With significantly re-inforced sidewalls specifically designed for our trucks by Good Year. To date you can't beat it. It also has the proper weight rating.
Red
#27
Originally Posted by awhittle
After driving the truck on this setup, I would have no intrest going back. The only thing I would considder is going to 16x8 but I would think the number of wheels that will clear the brakes and be rated for this sort of weight would be limited. The wheels that I puchased were advertised on Ebay as Navigator 17x8 but when they arived the turned out to be 16x7. I was suprised that they fit and then started looking for options in a 16 inch tire. Apparently 255-55-16 is a common tire size. The reason I started this thread was to inform people that where is a better option for a truck driven 20000 miles a year in the midwest where it can be 70 on Sunday and a foot on snow can fall on Monday.
AW
AW
It really makes the truck look like crap why dont you just buy a regular f-150 considering you dont "Smoke the tires"
#28
Originally Posted by RED 92
your "sure" of that ...are ya
16X7 steel spare = 32 lbs
16X7 99 Nav wheel = 21 lbs
nice uninformed post Disintegr8or ......do you have any other useless words of wisdom ?
16X7 steel spare = 32 lbs
16X7 99 Nav wheel = 21 lbs
nice uninformed post Disintegr8or ......do you have any other useless words of wisdom ?
Obviously you have no sense of humor. If anyone out there is dumb enough to want to run 4 steel spare tire rims on their Lightning, more power to them. I am glad you are such a stickler for details that you actually know the exact weights of each rim Clay.
#29