Whipple 3 Vs. Turbo
#1
Whipple 3 Vs. Turbo
Im relativly new to the forum (posting wise) but I have been debating this issue for some time reagarding which way to go. Since I am not going to be ready for about a year or two, I have plenty of time for others to test both sides...SC or Turbo.
I have read good things about the Turbos from Pro Turbo Systems and I really like the thought of a turbo because of the more "effeicent" boost that can be made and the amounts.
I have also heard (not seen) good future estimates on how the 3.3 will act. capable of 30+lbs and such. One quick question...do the whipple kits come with all the intake, TB, MAF, and filter? Im guessing that all are adequate enough to handle/support huge boost and power...?
For anywhere near a 800+rwhp truck, I have looked into built block utilizing billet rods, stouter pistons and mabey a billet crank(although they say the stock crank is good for above 1200hp).
What heads could be used with so much boost as 25-35lbs of boost? would they have to be made especially or could aftermarket heads now handle it?
Any info regarding these issues could be of great help. Thanks, Jonathan
I have read good things about the Turbos from Pro Turbo Systems and I really like the thought of a turbo because of the more "effeicent" boost that can be made and the amounts.
I have also heard (not seen) good future estimates on how the 3.3 will act. capable of 30+lbs and such. One quick question...do the whipple kits come with all the intake, TB, MAF, and filter? Im guessing that all are adequate enough to handle/support huge boost and power...?
For anywhere near a 800+rwhp truck, I have looked into built block utilizing billet rods, stouter pistons and mabey a billet crank(although they say the stock crank is good for above 1200hp).
What heads could be used with so much boost as 25-35lbs of boost? would they have to be made especially or could aftermarket heads now handle it?
Any info regarding these issues could be of great help. Thanks, Jonathan
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Somebody is going to have "splain" to me...How are you going to drive a 3.3L blower with a serpentine drive belt up to 30 lbs boost ??
I really would like to see this done. My thoughts are it will take two...8 rib belts to even get close. And then we have to talk about how the crank and balancer are going to live. I was having major problems with crank and balncer with a KB let alone some monster like that.
Dale
I really would like to see this done. My thoughts are it will take two...8 rib belts to even get close. And then we have to talk about how the crank and balancer are going to live. I was having major problems with crank and balncer with a KB let alone some monster like that.
Dale
#7
Originally Posted by Bad as L
Somebody is going to have "splain" to me...How are you going to drive a 3.3L blower with a serpentine drive belt up to 30 lbs boost ??
I really would like to see this done. My thoughts are it will take two...8 rib belts to even get close. And then we have to talk about how the crank and balancer are going to live. I was having major problems with crank and balncer with a KB let alone some monster like that.
Dale
I really would like to see this done. My thoughts are it will take two...8 rib belts to even get close. And then we have to talk about how the crank and balancer are going to live. I was having major problems with crank and balncer with a KB let alone some monster like that.
Dale
Suavy had his Magnum powers blower up to 26 Lbs of boost. For a While.
I thought SAL had his Centrifigul blower up in the 20's lbs of boost. but it kept spitting belts, then again it was a cogged system.
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#8
Originally Posted by l-menace
turbo is the way to go for HIGH RPM POWER.
Whipples exist, Ford Racing has Quite a few they are testing. INCLUDING 3.3L
Facts people, not rumor
Whipples exist, Ford Racing has Quite a few they are testing. INCLUDING 3.3L
Facts people, not rumor
I am trying to get dustin to make me a kit for my truck with 1 of their 5.0L compressors though
Will
#9
Originally Posted by l-menace
Suavy had his Magnum powers blower up to 26 Lbs of boost. For a While.
I thought SAL had his Centrifigul blower up in the 20's lbs of boost. but it kept spitting belts, then again it was a cogged system.
I thought SAL had his Centrifigul blower up in the 20's lbs of boost. but it kept spitting belts, then again it was a cogged system.
Dale
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There are engines out there making over 2000 hp with the same head gaskets, blocks, heads and studs that any built lightning engine has.....the difference is they dont run the engine into detonation. Heads dont lift under normal cylinder pressure even the kind of cylinder pressure that makes insane hp....they lift from abnormal cylinder pressure caused by uncontrolled combustion.
Dale
PS....if your really good...you can lift a cylinder head at 10lbs boost, it doesn't have to be high boost.
Dale
PS....if your really good...you can lift a cylinder head at 10lbs boost, it doesn't have to be high boost.
#12
As said the Whipples do exist (the 140 will be shipping to some lucky people starting "1" week from today, THIS STRAIGHT OUT OF WHIPPLES MOUTH SAT.
Turbo's def DO seem the move, however for 6K I think alot of people will still stay with the S/C at 1/2 the price, especially if they can run mid 10's off spray, as V has done time after time now on the Whipple. Give people a while to get these Whipples dialed in, and sky is the limit......
Turbo's def DO seem the move, however for 6K I think alot of people will still stay with the S/C at 1/2 the price, especially if they can run mid 10's off spray, as V has done time after time now on the Whipple. Give people a while to get these Whipples dialed in, and sky is the limit......
#13
Originally Posted by Bad as L
Somebody is going to have "splain" to me...How are you going to drive a 3.3L blower with a serpentine drive belt up to 30 lbs boost ??
I really would like to see this done. My thoughts are it will take two...8 rib belts to even get close. And then we have to talk about how the crank and balancer are going to live. I was having major problems with crank and balncer with a KB let alone some monster like that.
Dale
I really would like to see this done. My thoughts are it will take two...8 rib belts to even get close. And then we have to talk about how the crank and balancer are going to live. I was having major problems with crank and balncer with a KB let alone some monster like that.
Dale
Dale was that on a caged version of the lower pulley?
Rich
#14
Originally Posted by Rob_02Lightning
As said the Whipples do exist (the 140 will be shipping to some lucky people starting "1" week from today, THIS STRAIGHT OUT OF WHIPPLES MOUTH SAT.
Turbo's def DO seem the move, however for 6K I think alot of people will still stay with the S/C at 1/2 the price, especially if they can run mid 10's off spray, as V has done time after time now on the Whipple. Give people a while to get these Whipples dialed in, and sky is the limit......
Turbo's def DO seem the move, however for 6K I think alot of people will still stay with the S/C at 1/2 the price, especially if they can run mid 10's off spray, as V has done time after time now on the Whipple. Give people a while to get these Whipples dialed in, and sky is the limit......
Nothing wrong with either blower, they work great. They are less money but not as big of a difference as they first appear.
Jody