Shock dyno: Hotchkis-Bilstein
#61
Originally Posted by 203Cree
. . . Maybe they aren't revalved to be stiffer at all. Maybe they're just revalved to adjust for the difference in ride height. . . .
But assuming that you mean that the difference may just be shorter shafts, that's an interesting idea. Hotchkis might just spec a shorter shaft. I don't know if a hardened shaft can be rethreaded, but they might even shorten it themselves. To try to adapt the rear Bilsteins to use a top heim joint, I've been a studyin on that a bit myself.
Anyone have a Hotchkis shock lying around to measure?
#62
#63
Originally Posted by pitstain
Tim I already have a Heim setup for the rears, just never installed it, I have the proper rod-ends and bolts and ruslow brackets.......the length is an issue though, with the Heim even so-cal extenders are not really enough to compensate.....
Where did you get the metric heims?
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#68
Here is a comparison of the stock rear shock to the Hotchkis (not mine):
I can't recall if I mentioned this, but the front Hotch has the same shaft length as stock.
Interesting. Although the "X" is an unknown, I wonder what those pedestrian models use in the way of spring rates. In any case, I'm convinced that my stock '04 shocks have firmer valving.
I can't recall if I mentioned this, but the front Hotch has the same shaft length as stock.
That's the part number listed for the SuperCrew, Expedition, Blackwood, and Navigator.
#69
As the photo shows above Tim they are indeed upside down.
PM me your address I will send you a pair of the proper metric Heim joints and bolts and you can play around with them yourself. In return I only ask your continued freindship and a foam squishy toy from any trade show or convention you have in your posession.
PM me your address I will send you a pair of the proper metric Heim joints and bolts and you can play around with them yourself. In return I only ask your continued freindship and a foam squishy toy from any trade show or convention you have in your posession.
#70
Originally Posted by Tim Skelton
But assuming that you mean that the difference may just be shorter shafts, that's an interesting idea. Hotchkis might just spec a shorter shaft. I don't know if a hardened shaft can be rethreaded, but they might even shorten it themselves. To try to adapt the rear Bilsteins to use a top heim joint, I've been a studyin on that a bit myself.
#71
guys i have decided to order up some Koni shocks...apparently the moron i spoke to at Koni was wrong and the Koni red "specials" will fit on a lightning with stock springs.....E.G. drop spindles up front with stock springs and a mild rear drop with shock extenders...
I spoke with Mark @ Shox.com who has been in the shock biz for over 30 years and he stated that the Koni red's adjusted halfway would equal the Bilsteins offered for the Lightning, turned up higher they would be even stiffer.....soooooo even though they need to be removed to adjust them they are rebound adjustable monotube gas shocks.........basically a RELIABLE adjustable shock
I will be ordering them tuesday and will probably have them in hand by the end of next week.....
Report WITH PICTURES TO COME !
I spoke with Mark @ Shox.com who has been in the shock biz for over 30 years and he stated that the Koni red's adjusted halfway would equal the Bilsteins offered for the Lightning, turned up higher they would be even stiffer.....soooooo even though they need to be removed to adjust them they are rebound adjustable monotube gas shocks.........basically a RELIABLE adjustable shock
I will be ordering them tuesday and will probably have them in hand by the end of next week.....
Report WITH PICTURES TO COME !
#73
Originally Posted by pitstain
guys i have decided to order up some Koni shocks...apparently the moron i spoke to at Koni was wrong and the Koni red "specials" will fit on a lightning with stock springs.....E.G. drop spindles up front with stock springs and a mild rear drop with shock extenders...
I spoke with Mark @ Shox.com who has been in the shock biz for over 30 years and he stated that the Koni red's adjusted halfway would equal the Bilsteins offered for the Lightning, turned up higher they would be even stiffer.....soooooo even though they need to be removed to adjust them they are rebound adjustable monotube gas shocks.........basically a RELIABLE adjustable shock
I will be ordering them tuesday and will probably have them in hand by the end of next week.....
Report WITH PICTURES TO COME !
I spoke with Mark @ Shox.com who has been in the shock biz for over 30 years and he stated that the Koni red's adjusted halfway would equal the Bilsteins offered for the Lightning, turned up higher they would be even stiffer.....soooooo even though they need to be removed to adjust them they are rebound adjustable monotube gas shocks.........basically a RELIABLE adjustable shock
I will be ordering them tuesday and will probably have them in hand by the end of next week.....
Report WITH PICTURES TO COME !
#74