Lightning competition from Toyota is here.
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Lightning competition from Toyota is here.
Just got in from Toyota the new 5.7L Tundra Superchargers! They are now available for purchase. TOP is proud to offer all TTORA members this special introductory offer!
Suggested Retail Price - $5875.00
YOUR price - $5319.00
Note: This is a package deal and you will get both the SuperCharger (PTR29-34070) and the Install Kit (PTR29-34079) with this deal.
Unique design fully integrated into the engine with the latest generation Eaton® Twin Vortices System (TVS) roots-type rotor pack. ---The twin four-lobe rotors feature 160-degree twist improves air-handling, noise, and vibration characteristics - Kit includes: -- High flow fuel injectors, single belt drive, and lower heat range iridium-tip spark plugs. -- Water-to-air intercooler system with a custom low temperature radiator (LTR) -- A new performance air Intake system is included in the kit with a TRD re-useable performance filter, Intake Flow Accelerator and a larger upper air box lid with a filter service gauge. -- 50-State emissions legal. Power: 504hp up from 381hp / torque 550lb-ft up from 401lb-ft.
All power numbers certified to SAE J1349
Suggested Retail Price - $5875.00
YOUR price - $5319.00
Note: This is a package deal and you will get both the SuperCharger (PTR29-34070) and the Install Kit (PTR29-34079) with this deal.
Unique design fully integrated into the engine with the latest generation Eaton® Twin Vortices System (TVS) roots-type rotor pack. ---The twin four-lobe rotors feature 160-degree twist improves air-handling, noise, and vibration characteristics - Kit includes: -- High flow fuel injectors, single belt drive, and lower heat range iridium-tip spark plugs. -- Water-to-air intercooler system with a custom low temperature radiator (LTR) -- A new performance air Intake system is included in the kit with a TRD re-useable performance filter, Intake Flow Accelerator and a larger upper air box lid with a filter service gauge. -- 50-State emissions legal. Power: 504hp up from 381hp / torque 550lb-ft up from 401lb-ft.
All power numbers certified to SAE J1349
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When you're dealing with 5400lbs, depending on accessories and configuration, IMO its pointless especially since the kit with coolant, supercharger, heat exchanger, hoses, intake... has got to add a good 200lbs.
That kind of weight is the same reason the Gen 3 Lightning was cancelled. Despite 500hp, they couldn't meet performance targets.
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Despite having owned my Lighting since 2002, I'm still astounded that the damn thing -- the smallest, lightest model in the F150 lineup -- weighs nearly 5,000 lbs. And on their premier, bet-the-company vehicle, and with super-high gas prices well within the realm of prediction, Ford chose to bloat it even further.
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Thats real good! Mine with 8psi whipple claims 464/510. So thats alot of power. They are lighter then our trucks too.
If you get a single cab short bed 5.7 tundra they run 14.0 in the 1/4. Not bad for stock truck. Course a most lightnings will see 12's with ease so its really not the same catagory.
If you get a single cab short bed 5.7 tundra they run 14.0 in the 1/4. Not bad for stock truck. Course a most lightnings will see 12's with ease so its really not the same catagory.
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For an accurate comparison, compare a current F-150 with a blower kit. I'll still take the F-150 with best in class interior, ride and frame. Keep in mind that the Toyota is maxed out while the Lightning is at the starting point.
And Ford is now paying the price for its bloated engineering on the new F150. Sales are dropping like a stone.
Despite having owned my Lighting since 2002, I'm still astounded that the damn thing -- the smallest, lightest model in the F150 lineup -- weighs nearly 5,000 lbs. And on their premier, bet-the-company vehicle, and with super-high gas prices well within the realm of prediction, Ford chose to bloat it even further.
Despite having owned my Lighting since 2002, I'm still astounded that the damn thing -- the smallest, lightest model in the F150 lineup -- weighs nearly 5,000 lbs. And on their premier, bet-the-company vehicle, and with super-high gas prices well within the realm of prediction, Ford chose to bloat it even further.
Thats real good! Mine with 8psi whipple claims 464/510. So thats alot of power. They are lighter then our trucks too.
If you get a single cab short bed 5.7 tundra they run 14.0 in the 1/4. Not bad for stock truck. Course a most lightnings will see 12's with ease so its really not the same catagory.
If you get a single cab short bed 5.7 tundra they run 14.0 in the 1/4. Not bad for stock truck. Course a most lightnings will see 12's with ease so its really not the same catagory.
You're talking at the wheels. The Tundra with the blower is probably closer to 400.
The Silverado with their top gas engine isn't far behind. The new F-150 with the new 6.2L and 6 speed will be in the exact same ball part.
I'm really not impressed with the Tundra. After spending 2 Billion, Toyota brought nothing new to the table and on their 4th attempt at the pick-up truck market, they have a really ugly truck with a cheap interior. The styling is absolutely awful with hints of previous generation F-150, plastic skid plate, fake plastic hood scoop above the grill (WTF), weakest frame, highest fuel consumption, several quality issues, Camry steering wheel and wimpy shifter that looks lifted from their cars..... 2007 sales were disappointing before the market took a dive even with a multi-million dollar campaign. They expected to just take over the market like they did with mid-size cars but their execs. admitted that they underestimated the level of sophistication of the pick-up truck consumer. Looks good on them.
If they wanted to see our level of sophistication, all they had to do was read the Lightning boards...
Last edited by TrackBeast; 06-12-2008 at 10:51 PM.
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