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Old 06-19-2001, 12:08 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Silver_2000_ !:
I have an Superchips R9 that works great. Superchips is a great choice for a Street Lightning. It seems like the other tuners crank down tighter on the engines to get more performance for the strip.

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yes... by leaning out the fuel/air ratio, lowering it into dangerous levels below 12 which Mike Troyer specifically says this is Dangerous to the motor... Stay with a Basic R9 Program and you'll be fine and safe


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Well since most of us spend most of the time on the streets and not at the strip wouldn't we want the best chip for the street, no matter which tuner makes it?
 
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well said captain. That is my point. I only plan on taking it to the stip a few times a year. That is my I am not looking necesarily for the fastest chip but one that makes the improvement without the risk of doing any damage by over tuning. It seems like superchips will give me that. Did you guys get the steet/strip combo?
 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by captainoblivious:
Wouldn't we want the best chip for the street, no matter which tuner makes it?</font>
Yes.
I bet all chips from the FOUR chiptuners on the street are identical, other than shifting. Yet, any one of those FOUR chiptuners will tailor the shifts however you want.

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"yes... by leaning out the fuel/air ratio, lowering it into dangerous levels below 12 which Mike Troyer specifically says this is Dangerous to the motor... Stay with a Basic R9 Program and you'll be fine and safe"

Don't believe everything you hear. I've datalogged most all other brands of chips and you would be surprised which ones "really" run dangerously lean and which do not. I'll leave it at that, since going into more detail on that subject on public forum is not appropriate.

Oh, and by the way, if you want correct technical information, you can ask us here on the boards. The lower the A/F number, the RICHER the mixture.

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i just instl'd JL's diablo chip last thursday. i asked for a "street-daily driver" as i will put 25,000+ miles per yr. on my L. i will also drag it(tried to fri. pm but when i got there the track was closed because of inclement weather--looked ok to me?). and, i may driver's school it at a road course.

the chip feels great! regular shifts, if i ease into the throttle but it wails at WOT! it really "woke up" the truck and i only have 3500 miles on it.

my only regret is that i failed to get a baseline time before the mods...

btw, i have a superchip in my xlt 4.6L...saw a slight increase in mpg with lots more grunt.

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This should make it easy:

When dyno tuning it's MUCH easier to allow the tuner to actually tune the thing himself on the fly w/out having to call up and order more programs. I think a "custom" tune is the way to go, not something that was already created on some BBS waiting for a d/l, or the extra time on the tuner's wait for a technician at an 800# to change a few variables.

I'm not dissing the other chip makers because I fully believe that they all work and they all can program them w/ extremely similar variables, but IMHO Autologic is the one to go w/ for a dynotune.

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Old 06-19-2001, 02:01 AM
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I would have to agree with BfB...I am extremely impressed with what the AUTOLOGIC can do, as compared to others
 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">11.40 @ 113 with 150 shot(on the brakes)NOT BACKED UP 4700 lbs.</font>
Wow, your starting to make me nervous,Spiro.LOL Why were you braking? Did you run out of motor? Awesome runs!
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Old 06-19-2001, 10:27 AM
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Tom, I think Spiro was a bit nervous on the big end at WFC, because we just finished his 15" wheel conversion, and we had to take alot off his rear calipers the get the rims to fit. There was only 1/16" clearance between the rims and calipers, and every now and then, it would make a noise that was kinda scary. Also one of the wheels was way out of balance and the truck was shaking on the top end. WFC was the first time using these wheels

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Slicks topped off with wobbily wheels,hmm,sounds like a good time to me.
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Tom,
Actually ET STREETS 28 x 12.5 x 15 with only 13 lbs. of air had something to do with it LOL
 
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I am running a Superchips Single program street chip and I am very happy with it.
 
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Maybe a little fun is in order.

Think of the situation, Strikes 2, as comparing chips to Viagra.

Both are performance enhancers that unlock what is already there but not working just the way you really want it to.

In both cases, there are levels of performance enhancement but both come with certain side effects.

With regard to chips, a Superchips dose, the normal flip chip, gives a measurable increase in performance with minimal side effects. A typical PSP chip (the one I have used) gives rather a bit more performance but with the given side effects a bit magnified. Harder shifting all the time, possibly some tip in detonation and the occasional stumble at low speeds. But, it sure as hell does a great job if that is what you are looking for. The Superchips version makes you racier, particularly if you push it but also gives a nice performance increase if you just sort of motor along.

Viagra is kind of the same way. You can take 25 mg, 50 mg or 100 mg or any combination (watch the heart they say).
50 mg is sort of like a Superchips chip in that the added performance is there and it is very noticeable but there are not so many side effects. 100 mg or more and you are burning rubber for the first 200 feet, your times are outstanding and you win a lot.
But, you get headaches, upset tummy and your partner says at 5:00 AM, "Knock it off Charlie". That's sort of the PSP chip version.

Me, I'm a 50 mg sort of guy. I run a '99 RPM Superchips chip now (still have the 100 mg PSP chip in the box) and I glide happily through life knowing I may not be the biggest stud on the block but my Bolt is realizing an awful lot of it's earlier unrealized potential.

Enjoy!!!

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Hey Bill, that's an interesting analogy, and I'm not going to even ask why you seem to know so much about Viagra .

As for your comparison to your two "pills", keep in mind that the doseage you have from PSP, is a very old version, the kind that works but has certian side effects even though it met FDA approval, and that you can always increase your doseage to a newer, more refined version of the drug

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