Used Pro-M / Check Engine Light
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Mad, i don't have to check,i beleive you got those #s.But i am questioning that particular dyno. If you go to another dyno and the numbers are the same i will be driving over to best products to have them recalibrate mine as my L is much slower without the chip than with,and it is calibrated for the pro m. Matt,nice #s but #s for an 01.Do you think your 99 would produce 378 rwhp with your old pro m and tb?
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MadMax, no worries on the flame thing, I know you are not flaming, just asking a legit and GOOD question. And I am happy to answer.
There are many inputs that the PCM uses to calculate data for proper engine and transmission managment. One of the most important input is the signal from the mass air flow (MAF) sensor. The MAF is just a housing with two hot wires in it that takes a 5V signal, and determines air flow by the air cooling the hot wires and sends the measured voltage back to the PCM. But the PCM uses that data for more than just incoming air. The PCM calculates drivetrain LOAD. Load is used to determine not just engine functions (timing, air fuel, etc..) but is also used to calculate transmission functions. These PCMs are not like old EEC4 PCMs. It's not "do what's in the tables". Our computers use fuzzy logic, they "think" for themselves. They take many inputs and make decisions. So when you change the MAF, the voltage curve back to the PCM changes, and the load tables change, which changes A LOT of stuff. By inserting the actual flow data from the Pro-M maf, the PCM now has the data for the voltage coming in and makes the proper changes.
It's a pretty complex thing to try to explain, but hopefully this helps.
There are many inputs that the PCM uses to calculate data for proper engine and transmission managment. One of the most important input is the signal from the mass air flow (MAF) sensor. The MAF is just a housing with two hot wires in it that takes a 5V signal, and determines air flow by the air cooling the hot wires and sends the measured voltage back to the PCM. But the PCM uses that data for more than just incoming air. The PCM calculates drivetrain LOAD. Load is used to determine not just engine functions (timing, air fuel, etc..) but is also used to calculate transmission functions. These PCMs are not like old EEC4 PCMs. It's not "do what's in the tables". Our computers use fuzzy logic, they "think" for themselves. They take many inputs and make decisions. So when you change the MAF, the voltage curve back to the PCM changes, and the load tables change, which changes A LOT of stuff. By inserting the actual flow data from the Pro-M maf, the PCM now has the data for the voltage coming in and makes the proper changes.
It's a pretty complex thing to try to explain, but hopefully this helps.
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east coast tunas...
Thanks! Sal..those are the answers I was looking for. Doug...lets pick a different dyno next time to compare...I will be the same with only a new fuel filter, current one has 18,000 miles...I have many mods in the boxes, but no time to install I am going stealth on the chip..and I will never tell what tuner chip I am going to use once I install it...lol My mod bank account is dwindling I have Jay Lincoln Truk-Traks, TR6 NGK's, Lower Pulley, Chip, Line Mod Valve, ruslow rotors......etc in the boxes...damn...wish I was on the East Coast to have all of this installed... I could pick a tuna...any tuna...lol I MIGHT have to have a vacation to drive out there and have it all done up at once...I am gettin' ready to see what the 1/4 krap is all about...lol
Doug...let the smacketh begin.... I am gonna play sneaky pete! LOL
Doug...let the smacketh begin.... I am gonna play sneaky pete! LOL
Last edited by MadMaxSC; 09-23-2001 at 10:33 PM.