Need help from those with drop springs..bumpstop issue!! (pic)
#47
#48
Bob, looks like I have mine in correct then. I guess it was just a misunderstanding of the terms "tighter" and "closer". Thanks for clearing it up. I'm off to pick up my truck in about 20 mins. Can't wait.
Bob
PS. After cutting the bumpstops, mine measured in at 30 1/2 from the ground to the lip of the fender. So it went down another 1/8 inch after the trim.
Bob
PS. After cutting the bumpstops, mine measured in at 30 1/2 from the ground to the lip of the fender. So it went down another 1/8 inch after the trim.
#49
So-Cal Drop
http://www.so-calspeedshop.com/index2.html
Ok,
From what I can tell we are basically doing what the So-Cal kit does. They sell the Eibachs with the kit and claim 1.75" front drop. They also replace the bump stops with Energy Suspension bump stops which I believe can be had from Jegs for $8.99 so FORGET roush. Have the new bump stops on order.
Looks like I'm droppin the rear now some more. I was thinking Hotchkis 2" drop leaf springs with the 2" shackles. Anyone know how payload is affected? Or is it better to go with the hangers? I'll basically have the So-Cal kit minus the extra leaf spring if I do the hangers.
Ok,
From what I can tell we are basically doing what the So-Cal kit does. They sell the Eibachs with the kit and claim 1.75" front drop. They also replace the bump stops with Energy Suspension bump stops which I believe can be had from Jegs for $8.99 so FORGET roush. Have the new bump stops on order.
Looks like I'm droppin the rear now some more. I was thinking Hotchkis 2" drop leaf springs with the 2" shackles. Anyone know how payload is affected? Or is it better to go with the hangers? I'll basically have the So-Cal kit minus the extra leaf spring if I do the hangers.
#51
Originally posted by NeedFourSpeed
Just a thought......by lowering you are compressing the stock shock some. Then by cutting the bump stop are you creating a condition where the shock will be fully compressed before hitting the bump stop? In other words does the shock become the "bump stop" and could bottoming out the shocks cause problems?
Just a thought as I get ready to put on my hotchkis springs Thursday.
Just a thought......by lowering you are compressing the stock shock some. Then by cutting the bump stop are you creating a condition where the shock will be fully compressed before hitting the bump stop? In other words does the shock become the "bump stop" and could bottoming out the shocks cause problems?
Just a thought as I get ready to put on my hotchkis springs Thursday.
BUT, the shock won't be operating in it's optimum range and the moving mass/springs will overpower them, so considering them deadweight.
Spike
#52
Re: So-Cal Drop
Originally posted by Onelfastlride
...was thinking Hotchkis 2" drop leaf springs with the 2" shackles. Anyone know how payload is affected? Or is it better to go with the hangers? I'll basically have the So-Cal kit minus the extra leaf spring if I do the hangers.
...was thinking Hotchkis 2" drop leaf springs with the 2" shackles. Anyone know how payload is affected? Or is it better to go with the hangers? I'll basically have the So-Cal kit minus the extra leaf spring if I do the hangers.
Spike
#53
Speedin Bob / Spike Engineering
Speedin
The Jegs part # is 355-9-9102G , description....11/16" Tall, 2" Dia., 2/pkg. I'm not certain this is the same as in the So-Cal kit, but from the picture, and searching I'd bet it is. I'll soon find out.
Oh, and I have short End Links!! Don't forget I'm running Hotchkis Sway Bar kit for a Lowered L w/ that comes shorter end links.
Spike or ANYONE
What is best to lower the rear now besides the shackles I have???
The Jegs part # is 355-9-9102G , description....11/16" Tall, 2" Dia., 2/pkg. I'm not certain this is the same as in the So-Cal kit, but from the picture, and searching I'd bet it is. I'll soon find out.
Oh, and I have short End Links!! Don't forget I'm running Hotchkis Sway Bar kit for a Lowered L w/ that comes shorter end links.
Spike or ANYONE
What is best to lower the rear now besides the shackles I have???
#54
#56
NeedFourSpeed - yep I got those same with the front springs also. I'll take a picture of it either later tonight or tomorrow and put up for you to how close it is.
About the Roush bumpstops, they are small little rectangles of rubber with a metal plate and bolt on the top. If Dan (thepawn) reads this maybe he will post a picture of them for everyone to see.
Bob - at this point I would just leave the coils the way they are, you may give yourself a serious headache trying to figure it out.
About the Roush bumpstops, they are small little rectangles of rubber with a metal plate and bolt on the top. If Dan (thepawn) reads this maybe he will post a picture of them for everyone to see.
Bob - at this point I would just leave the coils the way they are, you may give yourself a serious headache trying to figure it out.
#57
just when I was ready to say ***** it....
onefast, chainsaw, and all
Talked to So-Cal Speedshop. They offered and called Eibach (non-tech support) to verify how these are to be installed and followed up with me within 20 minutes... OUTSTANDING!!!
They stated prior to calling Eibach the closer coils are to be on the BOTTOM and they have done almost 30 installs this very way.
During our clarification phone call, it seems the F150 application differs from the norm. Good for So-Cal since they have done quite a few, good for us to FINALLY get the skinny on how they are to be installed.
obtw, So-Cal has some other suspension goodies in the works.
Bob
Talked to So-Cal Speedshop. They offered and called Eibach (non-tech support) to verify how these are to be installed and followed up with me within 20 minutes... OUTSTANDING!!!
They stated prior to calling Eibach the closer coils are to be on the BOTTOM and they have done almost 30 installs this very way.
During our clarification phone call, it seems the F150 application differs from the norm. Good for So-Cal since they have done quite a few, good for us to FINALLY get the skinny on how they are to be installed.
obtw, So-Cal has some other suspension goodies in the works.
Bob
#58
QA-1 adjustment?
Bob---with coils so tight on the bottom how can QA-1 shocks be easily adjusted?--what about spring spacers(1"--3/4")?--we are going to get into major bump-steer issues(i believe 1" is the most amount of front drop you want on these trucks if you want to retain good handling.[imo])-------Rob
#59
Best drop system for rear: Either springs or sliders with a drop. Drop shackles allow more rear-end slop than the stock system.
Front bump steer: This is a problem with any drop. It just get worse the lower you go. 1" to 1.5" drop is the recommended max.l to avoid excessive bump steer.
The QA1's are adjusted from underneath the control arm thus springs don't matter.
Front bump steer: This is a problem with any drop. It just get worse the lower you go. 1" to 1.5" drop is the recommended max.l to avoid excessive bump steer.
The QA1's are adjusted from underneath the control arm thus springs don't matter.
Last edited by Spike Engineering; 04-16-2002 at 07:17 PM.
#60
NeedFourSpeed -
click here for a pic of the bump stops: http://captainoblivious.tripod.com/t...uspension.html
click here for a pic of the bump stops: http://captainoblivious.tripod.com/t...uspension.html