I just realised you mentioned pulley. If your reffering to a lower under drive crank pulley, its going to spin the blower slower, making less power. The smaller pulley will slow down the compressor, where a larger one would speed things up.
The 99 crank pulley is a little smaller than the 01-02 lower pulley. The 01-02's will make more boost. tell your buddy to return it.
L injectors, and Maf is what I use, and seems to be the favorite choice amongst Tuners for this set-up.

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L's and the 03' Cobra's come with 42's. But the L injector will require a new pigtail to work with the harness, where as the 42's from the cobra's will not require them. Why FORD makes the same injector with 2 different plugs is beyond me...but, they do.

 

Spiro glad to see you are still in the game.That 6 seems to be laying down. If you would could you e-mail me the 11 sec. L combo. thanks Brian

 

Umm, lets go through this line by line... Your awfully defensive...

After owning numerous 10 second cars, i cant say any car intimidates me.

I dont know where you have been sleeping in the modular motor world, but your looking at $7-8K for a bottom end built modular done PROPERLY. Now, i havent been around a 5.4 very long, but i have over 6 yrs dealing with 4.6 Alumn Modulars.

If the piston doesnt say JE or CS, i want nothing to do with them. Now, tell me who manf these forged internals for the Modular 6?

Umm, your comparing a N/A Ford Modular V6 against a low compression, built buick engine intended for a force inducted application? Give me a break. Apples to Oranges here.

11 PSI + Ford Modular V6 = Kaboom. Ive seen several Mod V6's attempt force induction with little success. Not to mention, the lack of efficiency the mod 6 has to begin with.

I hardly consider building a 6 breaking new ground. Tell me the logic behind spending more for less with a 6 vs 4.6? Thats the same logic that seperates PC users from MAC users. Mac users pay more for less, including dated legacy technology.

4.6 parts are now coming out full steam. 6 Years of testing has unleashed serious performance parts. This is the next level above the 5.0's. Why waste your time and $$ on a 6?

So your telling me a 4.6 2V makes just a little more power then the 6? ? LMAO. Ok. a 96-98 4.6 was held back because of heads. Meet 99+ heads, whole different ball game. So what year engine are you comparing this to?

You can stroke a 6 to your hearts content. Your wrist pin with sit in such a manner you will be burning a quart of oil every 1000 miles. If weight is a concern to you, i point you to the 4.6 Alumn mod block. Compare the weight to the 6 vs the 4.6 Romeo.

I had an option to stroke my 4.6 until i saw how thin the cyl walls would be, how the wrist pin sat against the rod. I chose that minimal gains in CUI and Stroke arent worth giving up durability.

Email me when you have re-written the book of Moores Law. Im really curious to see these V6's take over the world.

Also keep in mind the added expense for an entire new fuel system as 11 psi will easily demand more fuel then the current 6's setup produces. Also, placing that car on a dyno, i wouldnt doubt that the MAF pegs out at .+5V between 3400-3999 RPM.

In one aspect i commend you for trying to make a 6 perform. But in another breath, youre beating a dead horse at the same time.

 

Without getting into any bashing, most supercharged v-6s I've seen put down between 250-270 on a dyno, with a custom tune and everything. I'm sure it's possible to see more with the correct setup, but I don't think seeing over 300 RWHP is common with such setups.

Certainly these cars are quick, and with the right driver, faster than a stock Mustang GT. Maybe a stock Lightning with a so-so driver could be beaten by one, but I don't see it happening often.

The last supercharged v-6 I saw at the track blew up, for what it's worth... Not to say that it's a common occurrence, but I've seen one out of one supercharged v-6 at the strip, and it nuked...

 

Make sure you race him best two out of three. Even if he does manage to beat you the first time, he won't win the next two. He will be busy changing head gaskets, or putting a new third gear in the trans.

 

First off, it seems as if you dont know that the 3.8 ARE NOT a Modular motor. This is not a pissing contest!! If your were curious as to what is availabe, you should e-mail me, not act like this here in the L Forum. IMO

Listen...I am not defensive, its just your simply so "uptight" and should really educate yourself a little more on whats available out there for the V6's. Why is it that folks like to think they "everything", and should try and insult someone else?? Rememeber...you started with the insults **** (nice name).
I or anyone dont expect you to, but your really coming off like an bad seed IMO. Some guy asks a question, I make a post...and your all of a sudden fully aware of whats available, and what is not. In my young 30 years, I have had 7 Mustangs, all V8's and built like most other "me too" car out there...so what?? Does this make you smarter than me, I currently have a Team car competing in HOT STREET NMRA action, and if you know anything about the class, its a no power adder class. And to be competative, running in the mid- to low 9's @ more that 140 mph is a must!! So as for what "brand" to use, There are pistons available for these cars from either company, just under a different application.
Its safe to say that I have done homework with this, as I did for the L's that helped MOST all other owners. Many, many, good folks paved the way for what you know ****......

Basically...thanks for the concern, I did not say " My 6 will beat your L" did I?? NO!! So relax dude....your way too stressed or something You jumped the gun, and spoke without knowing more facts, or even the 3.8.

If I wants to build a fast 6, who are you to tell me, or thousands of others that its a stupid or a bad idea. Your problem was, you posted when you should not have.

There's no reason this thread should re-surface. This is a L board, not a L -vs- 6 board.
Some of you are seriously too old, or too uptight to listen to anything different. And thats cool...its the goold ole' USA my firnds, and I or you could do what you choose !!

THE GREEK

 

what do you think grand national's and syclones and typhoon's are?

The V6 with the proper mods can be a deadly force when built up properly.


Just as a 4 cylinder rice burner with the right mods can run circles around a pimped out L.

Anything can be fast, all that matters is one thing?


MONEY!

 

well yeah I know...........but I guess what I meant was that I hadn't seen any FORD V6 do much before...........I was well aware of the GN's, SY's, TY's and 4-bangers, etc..............u just don't see too many V6 Mustang Hot Rods out there; that was my point.....sorry, just clearing that up

JC

 

Flying ****

You know whats funny

There's tons of people that think L owners are crazy for modding our trucks to make them fast when they just see them as plywood hauling trucks.

So I ask you this, how can you pick on someone for being different when you yourself own one of the most Controversial vehicles ever produced? What if someone ask you why in the world would you want to have a fast truck when you can have a 4.6 mustang that can be allot faster for allot cheaper?


WHO CARES WHAT ANYONE LIKES!!!

Don't make me get out of control defending my greek brother (by marrige, I'm a whop)?

 

I didn't mean to rant on you, that was an accident. sorry.

 

Show me another 4.6L or 5.0 with the same old bolt-ons... <yawn>

Show me a Mustang with something different, maybe a blown six, or a N/A six with some *****, and you've got my interest. It takes a little creativity to come up with stuff like the 11 sec Caravans of the world.

It's not about who's fastest, else I wouldn't be driving around in my 4800lb brick. We'd all be driving ratted out 5.0 Mustangs and 5.7L Camaros, with bolt-ons paid for by the money we saved on our mullet haircuts.

Viva la difference...(whatever the hell that means)

 

Every time I start my truck I say a lil prayer thanking God for people like Spiro who made it all possible. *quickly averts eyes due to intimidation*

 

Any of the 3.8 mustang guys can put in the FORGED STEEL SUPERCOUPE CRANK that costs ~600. That thing is bulletproof.

As for the boost... get real, 11psi is nothing.

forged internals... 4.2 users can use 351 rods with a tad shaving to fit.

JE, ROSS, and WIESCO all make FORGED pistons for the 3.8/4.2 (both have the same bore). ROSS has some wrist pins that are VERY stout to a stock pin.

Morana racing has some specialty items that make the engines stonger, one being a windage tray with main cap girdle.

I know of 23 supercharged PUSHROD V6's that are at 11psi and above.

7 of them having 11psi for 60,000 miles now. Don't believe me... spend some time at v6power.net


Really Flyin-**** doesn't know anything about our v6's. he is one of those V8 ONLY guys who think V6's are a waste of time.

I know of a few 3.8 Mustangs that are in the upper 11's.

 

also forgot to add...

There are two T3/T4 TURBO kits available to the 3.8 mustang crowd

as well as Vortech, Powerdyne, ATI Procharger kits for the 3.8.

I've heard roumers of a ATI procharger 11psi Kit for the 4.2 F-150. With my current mods, and the blower I will be 13.8-13.9's. With a Powertrax no slip, and slicks I will be 13.5's. Heads, cam, intakes, and built block will be on to handle 13PSI and I will be in the 12's. This is my goal I have exactly 1 year to make it.



btw, the design of our engines is based on the 302/351... they are NOT modular engines doofus!

 

HeY Spiro,
When you gonna have that stang together, I would love to see her run.