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#1
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My truck shifts pretty hard with the Superchip in it....I was looking at the Tranny upgrade by PSP--the replacement valve body. Is it worth it or should I put the money somewhere else--The bigger pulley and TB are already next--but Im not sure wether to go ahead with the valve body or not---Thanks in advance!!!
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#2
I am about to buy the valve body, because I don't like the chip raising the line pressure and possibly wearing out the pump in the tranny. With the valve body your shift firmness will be controlled mechanically and it will not stress the pump........Be sure and reburn your chip so you dont have firm shifts from the valve body and the line pressure raised.....
#4
Well, you dont need to, but IMO, that is what the valve body is for, releiving stress from the pump while maintaining the firm shifts (probably better shifts - I hate the sloppiness in the chip's shift firmness). If you dont reburn it, you will have the firmness you have now + the firmness from the valve body (I'm 90% sure, anyone correct me if i'm wrong)
I asked JDM many months ago wether or not their chips raise the line pressure..........their answer "no, our chips shorten the shift duration, not the line pressure" of course my next question was, "but I thought you shorten the duration by raising the line pressure?" they didn't reply to that one........ I talk to them a few weeks ago and the same person that told me 8 or so months ago that it did NOT raise pressure, told me it did...........
So for about 8 months I thought I had the only chip that didn't raise line pressure, only 'shortened the shift duration'...........while the whole time the pump in the trans was being over-worked.
I asked JDM many months ago wether or not their chips raise the line pressure..........their answer "no, our chips shorten the shift duration, not the line pressure" of course my next question was, "but I thought you shorten the duration by raising the line pressure?" they didn't reply to that one........ I talk to them a few weeks ago and the same person that told me 8 or so months ago that it did NOT raise pressure, told me it did...........
So for about 8 months I thought I had the only chip that didn't raise line pressure, only 'shortened the shift duration'...........while the whole time the pump in the trans was being over-worked.
#5
I "USE TO" have a program that raised the tranny pressure dangerously high. "YOU DO NOT WANT THAT" It will eventually take it's toll on your tranny. Go with the tranny mod and get a new burn. I had my chip reburned as soon as I found out how bad it was for the tranny, "and I haven't even done the tranny mod yet".
#6
JBL,
No JDM chip raises line pressure at all. The stock setting for shift duration form Ford is 400 ms, we cut that down to 200 ms. I repeat no JDM chip raises line pressure unless specifically asked toa nd then we warn the person about over working the pump. It is completely safe to shorten the duration time.
Justin@JDM
No JDM chip raises line pressure at all. The stock setting for shift duration form Ford is 400 ms, we cut that down to 200 ms. I repeat no JDM chip raises line pressure unless specifically asked toa nd then we warn the person about over working the pump. It is completely safe to shorten the duration time.
Justin@JDM
#7
in my opinion yes do the valve body if i had done the valve body 1st than i might not have burned up the 2nd gear clutch packs along w/ the 3rd gear clutches and i warped the overdrive drum (from the heat) and glazed the 1st gear clutches in all seriousness i believe it all could have been prolonged w/ the valve body
i'm currently a new member of the factory tech monster box club
i'm not saying its full proof cause when you start making more power you'll start seeing the need for upgraded parts
i'm currently a new member of the factory tech monster box club
i'm not saying its full proof cause when you start making more power you'll start seeing the need for upgraded parts
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I was a little afraid to open this thread up. With that title, I didn't know what I would find.
I had my shift points lowered to 5250 with my last reburn and, with the Factory Tech piece, it feels amazingly stronger at the shifts. This seems to keep me in the power band a little better. No line pressure increase, which apparently, you already do not have.
I had my shift points lowered to 5250 with my last reburn and, with the Factory Tech piece, it feels amazingly stronger at the shifts. This seems to keep me in the power band a little better. No line pressure increase, which apparently, you already do not have.
Last edited by Odin's Wrath; 09-15-2002 at 08:55 PM.
#10
Originally posted by 2000F250V10
JBL,
No JDM chip raises line pressure at all. The stock setting for shift duration form Ford is 400 ms, we cut that down to 200 ms. I repeat no JDM chip raises line pressure unless specifically asked toa nd then we warn the person about over working the pump. It is completely safe to shorten the duration time.
Justin@JDM
JBL,
No JDM chip raises line pressure at all. The stock setting for shift duration form Ford is 400 ms, we cut that down to 200 ms. I repeat no JDM chip raises line pressure unless specifically asked toa nd then we warn the person about over working the pump. It is completely safe to shorten the duration time.
Justin@JDM
#12
Im probably gonna CHIK...but DO I NEED THE REBURN????
TOO many people with TOO many different views...
-not that its a bad thing--thats whats great about this forum--LOTS of info. But in this case, theres too much...WILL SOMEONE PLEASE SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT!!!!
--its great to see the tuners and vendors get in on these types of discussions--but even they have different information at times--so lil help here?????
Thanks for all the feedback!
TOO many people with TOO many different views...
-not that its a bad thing--thats whats great about this forum--LOTS of info. But in this case, theres too much...WILL SOMEONE PLEASE SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT!!!!
--its great to see the tuners and vendors get in on these types of discussions--but even they have different information at times--so lil help here?????
Thanks for all the feedback!
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#15
Originally posted by JBLsilver01
I am about to buy the valve body, because I don't like the chip raising the line pressure and possibly wearing out the pump in the tranny. With the valve body your shift firmness will be controlled mechanically and it will not stress the pump........valve
I am about to buy the valve body, because I don't like the chip raising the line pressure and possibly wearing out the pump in the tranny. With the valve body your shift firmness will be controlled mechanically and it will not stress the pump........valve
The pump is going to turn the same rpm and have the same overall output regerdless of the line pressure(controlled by the EPC sol.in the sol.body.)
"How can you shorten the duration w/o raising line pressure???"
By changing the spring rate in the corrisponding accumulator valve.