Finally- No more whine
#1
Finally- No more whine
I have a 2002 with the 9 3/4" rear. It has been back to the dealer three times for the noisy gears in 15,000 miles.
The dealer checked pinion setting and installed new pinion bearings twice and new gears and ALL new bearings once to no avail. They then put me on their list for the "fix" when it becomes available.
Since I have been setting up gears for other peeps, on and off for thirty years, I decided to take a shot at it myself.
On first inspection, I noticed the pattern was "very heavy heel". I borrowed the tooling from my dealer and verified that the pinion setting was correct, according to their gauge, (it was).
I removed the pinion and pulled off the rear bearing. There was a .038" shim. Looking at the pattern and considering the size of the gears, I reinstalled the same bearing (only 5000 miles) using a .046 shim. I checked the pattern using white pigment and while I wouldn't have called it "good", it was now "slightly heavy toe" which is more desirable. I buttoned it back up and filled it with 50/50 petro and synthetic 140 gear oil with 1 bottle of FM.
The end result is extremely gratifying. The whine is all but gone. I think I can hear something, sometimes, maybe, at about 42 mph on tip in but only after driving a mile or so, as the dif is warming up, before or after that it is absolutely dead silent.
I told the Service Manager at my Dealer that he could take me off the list for the "fix", at least for now. He was very interested in what I had done and said he would be sure to tell the zone rep.
BTW, I have 3.73 gears and a full SVT conversion under the hood.
The dealer checked pinion setting and installed new pinion bearings twice and new gears and ALL new bearings once to no avail. They then put me on their list for the "fix" when it becomes available.
Since I have been setting up gears for other peeps, on and off for thirty years, I decided to take a shot at it myself.
On first inspection, I noticed the pattern was "very heavy heel". I borrowed the tooling from my dealer and verified that the pinion setting was correct, according to their gauge, (it was).
I removed the pinion and pulled off the rear bearing. There was a .038" shim. Looking at the pattern and considering the size of the gears, I reinstalled the same bearing (only 5000 miles) using a .046 shim. I checked the pattern using white pigment and while I wouldn't have called it "good", it was now "slightly heavy toe" which is more desirable. I buttoned it back up and filled it with 50/50 petro and synthetic 140 gear oil with 1 bottle of FM.
The end result is extremely gratifying. The whine is all but gone. I think I can hear something, sometimes, maybe, at about 42 mph on tip in but only after driving a mile or so, as the dif is warming up, before or after that it is absolutely dead silent.
I told the Service Manager at my Dealer that he could take me off the list for the "fix", at least for now. He was very interested in what I had done and said he would be sure to tell the zone rep.
BTW, I have 3.73 gears and a full SVT conversion under the hood.
Last edited by madferraristi; 05-09-2004 at 12:19 PM.
#2
#3
From what I can deduce, the problem lies in incorrectly machined housings, probably pinion bore location. The "fix" as I understand it would be a new (correctly machined) housing. Some have tried it with a current production unit resulting in no improvement.
Considering the fact that I am putting down almost 500 at the wheels, if mine stays quiet for six months, I'd say it would work behind a stocker forever.
I'll try to remember to post a follow-up in the fall but if you really want to know, send me a tickler.
Considering the fact that I am putting down almost 500 at the wheels, if mine stays quiet for six months, I'd say it would work behind a stocker forever.
I'll try to remember to post a follow-up in the fall but if you really want to know, send me a tickler.
Last edited by madferraristi; 05-10-2004 at 01:05 AM.
#4
#6
madferraristi, I should be Ok, its still under warranty, well lets say 120 miles left on it. Mine is the third on this forum that I know of with a complete remove and replace. They have rebuilt the innards 5 times with no luck. This was the last task. Hey they are paying for a rental replacement while mine is in the shop, a 2004 super crew. Very quiet and not much power.
#7