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Old 10-26-2002 | 11:24 AM
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Which Sub is better?

ok i have a lightning, that im putting the MTX Thunder Form enclosure in, and im not getting the 6000's that come with it, im thinking of one of these........

they are basically the same price...

JBL 10's 1000w max power, 250w RMS

Infinity 10's 1000w max power, 250w RMS

which is better? are they both the same, i cant decide, i like the name "infinety" but i also want to be a little different and get the JBL's

what do you guys think?
 
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Old 10-26-2002 | 11:29 AM
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if you have the money the infinities are much better in my opinion, especially in a truck.....
 
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Old 10-26-2002 | 11:34 AM
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well there both the same price...... 139.99 for a pair.... here is what they look like....

http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/JBLGT100 ------ JBL's

http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/INFREF1020W -----infinety's
 
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Old 10-26-2002 | 07:55 PM
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I would choose the JBL over that model Infinity...

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Old 10-26-2002 | 09:59 PM
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2trucks1wife is right, for that model go with the JBL's, if your looking at the top of the line, go infities
 
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Old 11-19-2002 | 11:48 AM
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there's not much of a difference, they are made by the same company. I got a empty thunderform box for sale.
 
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Old 11-19-2002 | 05:27 PM
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JBL's I think. there pretty good woofers.
 
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Old 11-29-2002 | 12:42 PM
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My Infinity Subs… Argggggg

What amp?

My Infinity Kappa Perfect 10.1 subs (both of them) blew last week @ 6 months old. I also have a buddy that mounted 3 10.1’s on the same amp and smoked one… Here are the amp specs…

MTX Thunder81000D Mono Block - Class D Amp
Test Voltage 12.5 VDC @ 4 ohm
Rated - 500 Watts RMS/Channel
Actual = 783 Watts RMS/Channel = 1566 Watts RMS/Channel @ 2 ohms

I think Infinity rated the 10.1’s at 350w(rms) – 1400w(max), BS they cant handle the power!

I ran the 10.1’s at 4ohms, approximately 350w(rms) each at full load with the amp tuned down and never at full volume, poof…

I just changed out to an Eclipse 88100dvc 8ohm (4+4) and paralleled them to 4ohms, these suckers hit much harder at ¾ power on the HU with the amp at the same setting and handle 500w(rms) continuous…

I do like Infinity, with 6.1 components up front and 5X7 rears it’s a very clear clean sound, but IMO the subs I wouldn’t do again… Here is the second amp for the components…

MTX Thunder6304 4 Channel – Amp
Test Voltage 12.5 VDC @ 4 ohm
Rated - 37.5 Watts RMS/Channel
Actual = 69 Watts RMS/Channel = 276 RMB @ 12.5VDC

Normal voltage to the amps 13.6vdc – 14.4vdc… Depending on how hard I’m rocken…

Other options to consider:

MB Quarts –
http://www.carstereoworld.com/mbquar...#anchor1022455

JL (with dvc) -
http://www.epinions.com/615949_JL_Au...Subwoofer_10W3

Your subs will also perform better in a box, but a lot of members like the Thunder Form, it fits great, looks good and is lighter than a box. Good luck with the build…
 
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Old 11-29-2002 | 01:03 PM
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If you can find a dealer that is closing out last years JL Audio 10w6, then that would be the way to go. It will kick the crap out of either one of those subs you're looking at. If you can't find a dealer locally, then try ebay, as they have some pretty reputable sellers that are closing them out at pretty good prices. Another sub that will outperform the ones you are looking at is the Alpine Type R. Great for small enclosures and kicks out some great bass. You can find these on ebay for about $180.00 a pair. Good luck in whatever you decide.
 
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Old 11-29-2002 | 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by Navi Man
If you can find a dealer that is closing out last years JL Audio 10w6, then that would be the way to go. It will kick the crap out of either one of those subs you're looking at. If you can't find a dealer locally, then try ebay, as they have some pretty reputable sellers that are closing them out at pretty good prices. Another sub that will outperform the ones you are looking at is the Alpine Type R. Great for small enclosures and kicks out some great bass. You can find these on ebay for about $180.00 a pair. Good luck in whatever you decide.
What Navi man said , those are sweet subs… I was trying to keep you in the same power & price range, the JL 10w6 is a great sub! Don’t under power them (back to the amp question), that’s the number one killer of a sub…
 
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Old 12-02-2002 | 08:01 PM
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I agree.
JL makes a good sub. I don't like the Infinity's just like you said they CAN'T handle power. JBL is okay, I don't like the sound out of them though. The best type of sub to get is one that is VERY efficient in converting power to sound. I hate to say this but Pioneer is an effiecent speaker. Another good one is MEMPHIS.(who's that you ask) www.memcaraudio.com I can honestly say that I have had every sub that is mentioned, Pioneer, which I really liked. Infinity, which I hated. JL which was made okay but It was not loud enough. JBL's which I have installed in a friends vehicle and then sold for him so he could get some memphis subs. Check them out. The power reference subs are very effiecnt and sound awsome. Check out my sig for the LVS (loud volume subwoofer).

P.S you can pick up a Power reference sub for really close or less than a JBL or infinity or JL. And you won't have to second guess yourself!
 

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Old 12-02-2002 | 09:18 PM
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JL's for thoes model's but IF you go top, nothing tops the loudness and SQ of the eclipses or infinities
 
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Old 12-02-2002 | 09:30 PM
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Sdf150guy,
I would still say that the Eclipse and the Infinity's couldn't hold Memphis' lunch box!
Not trying to start anything but I have had or heard just about every sub out there! I LOVE MY LVS!!
 
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Old 12-03-2002 | 07:11 PM
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crockett59,
thats cool i dont have a problem with what you said, personally i have never herd the subs you have?? How do they sound?? i am still looking at which system im getting in mine, all i know is a panasonic HU I believe its the DU602F or something like that, and infinity kappa's or pioneer 6768's and a box built from a local custom stereo shop. I was looking at the kicker comp vr's 10's 2 of them with the kicker 700.5 amp, but Im not sure that im going to go with!!!
 
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Old 12-03-2002 | 07:45 PM
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sdf150guy,

That's cool. I went to there web site and found a dealer in
San diego. Check out Imperial Electronics, 2674 imperial Ave, 619-231-4131 and ask them about the memphis Studio and the Power Reference Subs(you won't be dissapointed!)The studio Don't have the Earth shattering bass but it does have VERY clean hard hitting bass. The Power Reference subs are their Entry Level that blows away The comp VR's. Like I sadi I have Had my fair share of subs and amps. A friend of mine owns a car audio place. You Get experience with EVERYTHING!LOL Check it out and Get back to me
 



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