Soon To Be FI with my 5.4
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Soon To Be FI with my 5.4
Hi, I'm dropping the $$$ on an order on the Roush Non-Intercooled Supercharger for the 04-06 F-150 5.4 3v.
RoushCharger Part #R07000001
I'm getting it for essentially $2,500 shipped.
Just wondering about any pitfalls to watch out for?
And what are some easy and cheap ways to squeeze a few more ponies?
Thanks guys, and looking forward to joining y'all in here. I got the wife to say yes, so the biggest hurdle is already passed
RoushCharger Part #R07000001
I'm getting it for essentially $2,500 shipped.
Just wondering about any pitfalls to watch out for?
And what are some easy and cheap ways to squeeze a few more ponies?
I know I can go with a Intercooled setup...but that's more $$$ than I've got right now...later it will come
I'm also wondering about raising the boost to 8-9 psi from the stock 6 psi and then custom tuning.
I already have a Dual Exhaust that's going to get modified with true duals and an X pipe.I'm also wondering about raising the boost to 8-9 psi from the stock 6 psi and then custom tuning.
Thanks guys, and looking forward to joining y'all in here. I got the wife to say yes, so the biggest hurdle is already passed
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$6,000+ shipped to my door.
that's why I did it.
I'll gladly pay 1/2 price for 33 fewer HP. I've already been researching Intercoolers and whatnot. I may make my own intercooler setup. from what I (seem to) understand, I'll need to raise the S/C'er PSI by 4psi to actually see about a 2psi increase at the motor itself (lose roughly 2psi through the intercooler)
thanks for the replies. that's twice now I've been nudged towards Mike Troyer. apparently his wife's truck is the Roush Non-Intercooled. So maybe I'll benefit from his tinkering.
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I understand saving some money on the inter-cooler.
But I don't know were your getting the idea of adding 4# to get 2 with an inter-cooler?
On a roots blower the only type of inter-cooler that would help at all is one (AFTER) the blower.
You will not loos any boost with that.
Now,,if you try to rig one that cools the air before the blower..Your just wasting your time and money.
It wont work.
Phil
But I don't know were your getting the idea of adding 4# to get 2 with an inter-cooler?
On a roots blower the only type of inter-cooler that would help at all is one (AFTER) the blower.
You will not loos any boost with that.
Now,,if you try to rig one that cools the air before the blower..Your just wasting your time and money.
It wont work.
Phil
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I understand saving some money on the inter-cooler.
But I don't know were your getting the idea of adding 4# to get 2 with an inter-cooler?
On a roots blower the only type of inter-cooler that would help at all is one (AFTER) the blower.
You will not loos any boost with that.
Now,,if you try to rig one that cools the air before the blower..Your just wasting your time and money.
It wont work.
Phil
But I don't know were your getting the idea of adding 4# to get 2 with an inter-cooler?
On a roots blower the only type of inter-cooler that would help at all is one (AFTER) the blower.
You will not loos any boost with that.
Now,,if you try to rig one that cools the air before the blower..Your just wasting your time and money.
It wont work.
Phil
the S/C puts out 6 psi. you cool that 6 psi down. the contraction of the air charge will reduce the pressure.
I've been doing some reading and most intercoolers seem to drop the pressure by approximately 2 psi. So what was 6 psi exiting the S/C and entering the intercooler...leaves the intercooler at roughly 4 psi.
to counter this, you bump the pressure leaving the S/C. in this example, you raise it to 8 psi to achieve a 6 psi "cold" air charge from the intercooler and into the intake. obviously I'd need some serious dyno tuning and tweaking. But I think it could work...and probably be a serious power adder.
if you don't believe me, try this.
get a 1 liter coke bottle. fill it with scalding hot water.
let sit in the fridge until ~40 degrees.
notice how it contracts and collapses in on itself? this is the reduction in pressure due to a reduction in temperature.
exact same principle occurs with a s/c and intercooler...just air instead of water as the medium
let sit in the fridge until ~40 degrees.
notice how it contracts and collapses in on itself? this is the reduction in pressure due to a reduction in temperature.
exact same principle occurs with a s/c and intercooler...just air instead of water as the medium
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it's basic heat transfer
I've been doing some reading and most intercoolers seem to drop the pressure by approximately 2 psi. So what was 6 psi exiting the S/C and entering the intercooler...leaves the intercooler at roughly 4 psi.
to counter this, you bump the pressure leaving the S/C. in this example, you raise it to 8 psi to achieve a 6 psi "cold" air charge from the intercooler and into the intake.
I've been doing some reading and most intercoolers seem to drop the pressure by approximately 2 psi. So what was 6 psi exiting the S/C and entering the intercooler...leaves the intercooler at roughly 4 psi.
to counter this, you bump the pressure leaving the S/C. in this example, you raise it to 8 psi to achieve a 6 psi "cold" air charge from the intercooler and into the intake.
And I can guarentee that you will not be happy with 6psi. When I started with the Eaton I went 12psi and still wasn't completely happy. Once I built bottom end to handle power immediately pulled 16 psi and now I'm real happy. And this is my daily driver.
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Get a Tune as soon as you install it, don't wait! Save the money if you have to but don't bypass this step.
And yes, you'll get greedy and want more! We all do...... So start saving now, you'll be wanting that intercooler and more boost before you know it!
And yes, you'll get greedy and want more! We all do...... So start saving now, you'll be wanting that intercooler and more boost before you know it!
Last edited by derrick929; 10-02-2008 at 08:13 AM.
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if I'm wrong I'm wrong. and then I'll buy the Roush approved intake and intercooler from them.
you never know until you try though
16psi is nuts. I'm looking to keep this truck for a long time in stock(ish) form. She only has 22,000 miles. and at my current rate, it will have less than 30,000 miles in 2011 when I move back to the mainland.
thanks guys.
you never know until you try though
16psi is nuts. I'm looking to keep this truck for a long time in stock(ish) form. She only has 22,000 miles. and at my current rate, it will have less than 30,000 miles in 2011 when I move back to the mainland.
thanks guys.