2003 F-150 - Another Tow Question
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2003 F-150 - Another Tow Question
F-150 4x4 5.4L SuperCab 3.55 Rear Axle .
Ok little confused. The original window sticker on my 2003 reflects the standard cfg 4.6L v8 etc, then the options that were added which are 5.4L, 3.55 RAxle, and Class III Tow Pkg. So does this mean I can only tow 6600lbs?
My confusion comes from other psts and tables such as the following info which states I should be good for 7900#'s
F-150 SuperCab 4WD 5.4 V-8 7,900 (c) C=3.55 Real Axle.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/li...s/tr_index.cfm
I ask cause the wife and are buying our first boat... and its 5150#'s dry...
Did some searching and looks like we are good to go. We live in MN now a days and dont have to worry about the big grades in So Cal anymore...
Thanks again!!!!
Ok little confused. The original window sticker on my 2003 reflects the standard cfg 4.6L v8 etc, then the options that were added which are 5.4L, 3.55 RAxle, and Class III Tow Pkg. So does this mean I can only tow 6600lbs?
My confusion comes from other psts and tables such as the following info which states I should be good for 7900#'s
F-150 SuperCab 4WD 5.4 V-8 7,900 (c) C=3.55 Real Axle.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/li...s/tr_index.cfm
I ask cause the wife and are buying our first boat... and its 5150#'s dry...
Did some searching and looks like we are good to go. We live in MN now a days and dont have to worry about the big grades in So Cal anymore...
Thanks again!!!!
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where you get the 6600lbs is the max payload. Your truck is definetely in the neighborhood of 4600 to 4800 lbs, so you take 6600 minus 4600 and you have a max payload capacity of 2000lbs. Get it?
My 2000 owners manual has 7900lbs max tow capacity for your truck, and 13000lbs combined (GCWR) I doubt it would have gone down for your 2003.
For example....
your truck= 4800lbs?
+Boat and trailer= 5200lbs?
+ you and all your stuff= 500lbs or so,
total= around 10500lbs.
You should be ok.
Remember there are 3 ways to be overloaded, payload capacity, combined weight, and max tow rating. If you stay under in all these categories, you should be fine.
Oh and congrats on the new boat!!
My 2000 owners manual has 7900lbs max tow capacity for your truck, and 13000lbs combined (GCWR) I doubt it would have gone down for your 2003.
For example....
your truck= 4800lbs?
+Boat and trailer= 5200lbs?
+ you and all your stuff= 500lbs or so,
total= around 10500lbs.
You should be ok.
Remember there are 3 ways to be overloaded, payload capacity, combined weight, and max tow rating. If you stay under in all these categories, you should be fine.
Oh and congrats on the new boat!!
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Re: 2003 F-150 - Another Tow Question
Originally posted by LongBoxter
... We live in MN now a days and dont have to worry about the big grades in So Cal anymore...
... We live in MN now a days and dont have to worry about the big grades in So Cal anymore...
Magnawake makes a good point. Just how big is this boat? Sounds like a 26 footer on a tandem trailer.
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I got the 660# from the Tag in side the door.
This is true I would have to deal with the Ramp grade... :o
I did some fruther number runs. Its a 2465 Reagal Cuiser actuially 26' Please tell me if I'm good about being nice and slow. (Only plan towing 60miles routrip may be everweeknd, only grade will be ramp. I dont want to destroy my truck but thought based on other posts reflects my truck to support 7700#'s. Am I scewed?
https://www.f150online.com/forums/li...s/tr_index.cfm
Wet
Boat 5150
Gas 442
Water 117
Trailer 1690
TotalWeight 7399
Pull Rating 6500
Ovrerage 899
Dry
Boat 5150
Gas 0
Water 0
Trailer 1690
TotalWeight 6840
Pull Rating 6500
Ovrerage 340
I also found the 2003 F150 Specs @ http://www.ford-trucks.com/specs/2003/2003_f150_1.html
This is what it shows for my cfg.
F-150 Pickup (Conventional Towing)
Maximum Loaded Trailer Weight (lbs.) -- Automatic Transmission
Engine Axle
Ratio GCWR
(lbs.) Regular Cab SuperCab SuperCrew
4x2 4x4 4x2 4x4 4x2 4x4
5.4L SEFI V-8 3.31 12,000 7,600 7,200 7,300 7,000 - -
3.55 13,0001 8,600 8,200 8,300 8,000 8,000 7,600
3.55 12,5002 - 7,700 - 7,500 - 7,100
1 With 16-inch tires or 4x2 P275 17-inch tires
2 With 4x4 P265 or LT265 17-inch tires 3 Available with 7700 Payload Group A only
4 Available with 7700 payload "Plus" Group B only
NOTE: Maximum trailer weights shown. The combined weight of the towing vehicle(including hitch, passengers and cargo) and the loaded trailer must not exceed the Gross Combination Weight Rating (GCWR).
Staes I should be good to 7700#'s
Thanks again for all your help!!!!
This is true I would have to deal with the Ramp grade... :o
I did some fruther number runs. Its a 2465 Reagal Cuiser actuially 26' Please tell me if I'm good about being nice and slow. (Only plan towing 60miles routrip may be everweeknd, only grade will be ramp. I dont want to destroy my truck but thought based on other posts reflects my truck to support 7700#'s. Am I scewed?
https://www.f150online.com/forums/li...s/tr_index.cfm
Wet
Boat 5150
Gas 442
Water 117
Trailer 1690
TotalWeight 7399
Pull Rating 6500
Ovrerage 899
Dry
Boat 5150
Gas 0
Water 0
Trailer 1690
TotalWeight 6840
Pull Rating 6500
Ovrerage 340
I also found the 2003 F150 Specs @ http://www.ford-trucks.com/specs/2003/2003_f150_1.html
This is what it shows for my cfg.
F-150 Pickup (Conventional Towing)
Maximum Loaded Trailer Weight (lbs.) -- Automatic Transmission
Engine Axle
Ratio GCWR
(lbs.) Regular Cab SuperCab SuperCrew
4x2 4x4 4x2 4x4 4x2 4x4
5.4L SEFI V-8 3.31 12,000 7,600 7,200 7,300 7,000 - -
3.55 13,0001 8,600 8,200 8,300 8,000 8,000 7,600
3.55 12,5002 - 7,700 - 7,500 - 7,100
1 With 16-inch tires or 4x2 P275 17-inch tires
2 With 4x4 P265 or LT265 17-inch tires 3 Available with 7700 Payload Group A only
4 Available with 7700 payload "Plus" Group B only
NOTE: Maximum trailer weights shown. The combined weight of the towing vehicle(including hitch, passengers and cargo) and the loaded trailer must not exceed the Gross Combination Weight Rating (GCWR).
Staes I should be good to 7700#'s
Thanks again for all your help!!!!
Last edited by LongBoxter; 01-27-2005 at 10:24 AM.
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Your truck sounds like 7700 lbs of towing to me.
Might be a good idea to scout the ramps. Look for one not so steep. The good news is your gas tank won't be 442 at extraction time. Another thing is when you dock you might want to keep loading momma up with boating toys until she slaps you.
Remember, you can't carry that stuff, you are the Captain!
Might be a good idea to scout the ramps. Look for one not so steep. The good news is your gas tank won't be 442 at extraction time. Another thing is when you dock you might want to keep loading momma up with boating toys until she slaps you.
Remember, you can't carry that stuff, you are the Captain!
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Page 168 of the 2003 Owner's manual:
Your GCWR is 13000 pounds with 16" wheels or 12500 w/ 17" wheels
Max towing is 7500 or 8000 pounds.
7700 Payload package includes 3.73 rear axle ratio, so he does not have that.
Your truck will be able to tow that boat wet. It will probably be over GCWR well before "Tow Rating". Figure 5000# for the truck, plus 800 for its passengers/cargo plus trailer weight. Use 4WD Low gear at the boat ramp (make sure to engage before backing up).
Your GCWR is 13000 pounds with 16" wheels or 12500 w/ 17" wheels
Max towing is 7500 or 8000 pounds.
7700 Payload package includes 3.73 rear axle ratio, so he does not have that.
Your truck will be able to tow that boat wet. It will probably be over GCWR well before "Tow Rating". Figure 5000# for the truck, plus 800 for its passengers/cargo plus trailer weight. Use 4WD Low gear at the boat ramp (make sure to engage before backing up).
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Sounds like you got it goin on. I know of your boat type. It's a very nice boat. You might even try to buy gas near the lake so you want need to carry that extra weight. Like the other post stated, burn it all up before leaving. Wake boarding all day should do it. Yeah, 4 wheel low sounds like a good idea. I hate a steep ramp and I only have a 20' bowrider. Purchasing Ice and drinks near the lake will help as well. Good boating. Fare winds and following seas...
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Does a boat that big come with a weight distribution hitch? I tow a 3000 pound boat and it's no big deal, but a dry weight boat of 5000 plus, is a lot of boat. Add the trailer weight, fuel, coolers, extras that always add up. A trailer that size must also come with trailer brakes. Is it optional to get the brakes on both axles rather then the standard one axle? I would be more worried about stopping a heavy load before pulling it!!!!
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I have a 3050 lb boat (dry). Trailer Approx. 1000 lbs.. Stores, fuel, maybe an extra 500 lbs. 4500 lbs, surge brakes works well.
I was thinking the oposite, why do I need a weight Dist hitch for a camper thats only a little heavier than my boat. I think I got that one figured out. This is only my opinion, so here goes: The large boat has the large V8, and outdrive, mega fuel tank in the rear of the boat. It's basically a ballancing act. The tongue should be heavy enough not to enhance sway, but low enough not to sagg the rear of the tow Vehicle. If you look at any boat you can see most of the heavy things I mentioned are behind the axles. Weight on campers are basically even on both front and rear of the the axles. My tongue jack folded up one time and hit the ground on my boat. No problem, My bother a I just picked up the tongue of the ground and placed the jack back under. I wont be doing that with my 27' camper any time soon. Most boat trailers have an adjustable winch and bumper stop so that you can adjust your load to get the right balance. At least that what I think, not for sure, just an observation.....
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I was thinking the oposite, why do I need a weight Dist hitch for a camper thats only a little heavier than my boat. I think I got that one figured out. This is only my opinion, so here goes: The large boat has the large V8, and outdrive, mega fuel tank in the rear of the boat. It's basically a ballancing act. The tongue should be heavy enough not to enhance sway, but low enough not to sagg the rear of the tow Vehicle. If you look at any boat you can see most of the heavy things I mentioned are behind the axles. Weight on campers are basically even on both front and rear of the the axles. My tongue jack folded up one time and hit the ground on my boat. No problem, My bother a I just picked up the tongue of the ground and placed the jack back under. I wont be doing that with my 27' camper any time soon. Most boat trailers have an adjustable winch and bumper stop so that you can adjust your load to get the right balance. At least that what I think, not for sure, just an observation.....
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