5th wheel/Gooseneck with F-150
#16
#17
That setup is certainly well within the capability of the F-150, and that type of situation is why they rate an F-150 for a 5th wheel. It has its uses.
Again, the argument isn't whether or not you can pull a 5th wheel with an F-150, the issue is whether or not you can pull a 5th wheel CAMPER with an F-150.
The general consensus (Chester being the exception) is that the choices of 5th wheel campers that realistically won't exceed the factory 5th wheel towing specs are few and far between.
Thus far, nobody has provided an example of a full-size 5th wheel with a full over-bed sleeper that won't exceed the GVWR of the truck, the GAWR of the rear axle, or the payload capacity of the bed (or all three). There may be some smaller models without full sized sleepers over the bed that are within the truck's limits on paper, but once loaded, the realistic weights put the truck at or very near the manufacturers specs.
Advising someone to tow without regards to those specs is irresponsible and wreckless at best, regardless of one's personal experience doing so.
Again, the argument isn't whether or not you can pull a 5th wheel with an F-150, the issue is whether or not you can pull a 5th wheel CAMPER with an F-150.
The general consensus (Chester being the exception) is that the choices of 5th wheel campers that realistically won't exceed the factory 5th wheel towing specs are few and far between.
Thus far, nobody has provided an example of a full-size 5th wheel with a full over-bed sleeper that won't exceed the GVWR of the truck, the GAWR of the rear axle, or the payload capacity of the bed (or all three). There may be some smaller models without full sized sleepers over the bed that are within the truck's limits on paper, but once loaded, the realistic weights put the truck at or very near the manufacturers specs.
Advising someone to tow without regards to those specs is irresponsible and wreckless at best, regardless of one's personal experience doing so.
#18
Originally Posted by APT
Where? I have yet to see it. 15% of 9000 = 1350 pounds. How much does the hitch weigh? How much do you weigh? Are you taking any other passenergrs or cargo? Does your truck have any options, or is it a work truck stripper? Take the ~1650 payload availbile minus 1350 for the trailer pin weight. That leaves 300 pounds for the driver, passengers, the weight of the hitch itself, and any cargo you put in the cab or bed of the truck. So, how is that 9000 fifth wheel possible again? Where does Ford say you can exceed the GVWR when towing a fifth wheel trailer?
It's your truck. Do what you want to with it. I'll do the same with mine.
#19
#20
Originally Posted by chester8420
You just said it yourself. According to you, you're still under vehicle ratings.
BTW, my truck weighs just under 5,600 lbs as it sits. That's with 2 (full) mounted tool boxes a 150lb chain, air tank, rubber bed mat, fire gear in the back seat, a permanent SOLID gooseneck hitch, and me in it. That leaves 650lbs to play with even now. If I took some of my crap out, I would easily have the 1350lbs of capacity needed. If you really wanted to, you could remove your reciever hitch and get a lot more weight freed up too. But it's not necessary.
It's your truck. Do what you want to with it. I'll do the same with mine.
#21
Originally Posted by KDOTengineer
I've never heard of a 7x16 stock trailer. Dad has a 5x16 trailer, and we regularly put 8 800lb steers in it or about 7000 lbs. His old F250 with the non powerstroke diesel pulled it like it was nothing. You're right about the live weight though, they get to jumping around and it'll shove you around too.
I've never seen a 16 foot gooseneck stock trailer, but I've never looked either. Even if I had one I still woudn't pull it with a 1/2 ton. I wouldn't pull any stock trailer with a 1/2 ton. A 3/4 ton or 1 ton just pulls the trailer so much better. And besides who wants a dinky 16 ft stock trailer, it's better to have a 20 or 24 ft one. That way you make a lot less trips.
I've never seen a 16 foot gooseneck stock trailer, but I've never looked either. Even if I had one I still woudn't pull it with a 1/2 ton. I wouldn't pull any stock trailer with a 1/2 ton. A 3/4 ton or 1 ton just pulls the trailer so much better. And besides who wants a dinky 16 ft stock trailer, it's better to have a 20 or 24 ft one. That way you make a lot less trips.
http://www.burkhaltertrailers.com/Go...STK/82439.html
http://www.burkhaltertrailers.com/gooseneck.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2007-PONDERO...QQcmdZViewItem
Last edited by sterusmall; 12-15-2006 at 11:06 AM.
#22
Originally Posted by sterusmall
Wow!! Those things are mondo-heavy!!! 4000 lbs empty!! Wow! 6000 lb axles on that one!! That's WAY more than you could pull safely with an F-150. (unless you're Chester, of course, in which case, that's only about 1/5 of what you can pull)
#23
Originally Posted by GIJoeCam
Wow!! Those things are mondo-heavy!!! 4000 lbs empty!! Wow! 6000 lb axles on that one!! That's WAY more than you could pull safely with an F-150. (unless you're Chester, of course, in which case, that's only about 1/5 of what you can pull)
Those first two links of trailers, are the most pathetic looking trailers I've seen. They sure wouldn't sell around here.
Try http://www.titantrailer.com/stock/stock_gooseneck.htm
and http://www.featherlitemfg.com/traile....cfm?cat=stock these are trailers.
Here's some that are for sale. http://www.btandf.com/inventory/view...Name=livestock you'll have to click on the picture to see the length.
#24
Well ain't that a cute little gooseneck. I don't think I've ever seen one of those in my part of the country. Almost everyone has 5 or 6x16 bumper or 6x20 or 24 gooseneck.
Why buy a 16' gooseneck stock trailer? If you have a pickup that's gonna pull a gooseneck, then you might as well go and get at least a 20' one.
I think a 6x20 or 6x24 would meet all of my needs if I ever need to get a stock trailer.
I'd go with a non wood floor too.
But if the sky was the limit, I'd definitely go with the Featherlite. It never has to be painted, it's lighter, and it's very rust resistant.
Why buy a 16' gooseneck stock trailer? If you have a pickup that's gonna pull a gooseneck, then you might as well go and get at least a 20' one.
I think a 6x20 or 6x24 would meet all of my needs if I ever need to get a stock trailer.
I'd go with a non wood floor too.
But if the sky was the limit, I'd definitely go with the Featherlite. It never has to be painted, it's lighter, and it's very rust resistant.
#26
Originally Posted by GIJoeCam
Wow!! Those things are mondo-heavy!!! 4000 lbs empty!! Wow! 6000 lb axles on that one!! That's WAY more than you could pull safely with an F-150. (unless you're Chester, of course, in which case, that's only about 1/5 of what you can pull)
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Last edited by chester8420; 12-16-2006 at 03:30 AM.