making my 2002 supercrew a better tow vehicle?
#16
Per the Forest River web site, the lightest 29" weighs in at 6910lbs dry with a 965 dry tongue weight. Which is above your max tongue weight, even with a WD hitch.
http://www.forestriverinc.com/nd/def...s=LATTTrailers
http://www.forestriverinc.com/nd/def...s=LATTTrailers
Last edited by kingfish51; 07-23-2009 at 12:35 PM.
#17
8iron, our trucks have actual payloads in the 1400 pound range. Some higher, some lower. So, take away a family at 500 pounds, hitch weight at 650 pounds, and that leaves not much left for anything in the truck bed.
Finalday, if you have an opportunity to back out of the purchase of an LA 29 RV, do it. That will be something like 8500-9000 pounds ready to camp. I would not recommend any of the LA models. If you like Fleetwood, then a Rockwood would be better. The 2603 is not to far off your desired floorplan.
Finalday, if you have an opportunity to back out of the purchase of an LA 29 RV, do it. That will be something like 8500-9000 pounds ready to camp. I would not recommend any of the LA models. If you like Fleetwood, then a Rockwood would be better. The 2603 is not to far off your desired floorplan.
Last edited by APT; 07-23-2009 at 12:38 PM.
#18
8iron.. I don't know, but the truck weighs about #5700 coming out of the dump scales after I've dumped! That's with me and usually my wife on board too. (I've gone in usually weighing around #6500). If I go in with my little utility trailer in tow, it's more of course and my utility trailer only weighs about #650 empty.
I don't even have all that much stuff in the truck, but it does have stuff in it that rides around all the time... Match that to the fact that I only have a #6250 GVWR on the truck!
When I go camping for just a long weekend, I haul some firewood, my tool box, portable BBQ and other nick knacks that add up quick, so I know I'm over GVWR when it's all said and done!
Mitch
I don't even have all that much stuff in the truck, but it does have stuff in it that rides around all the time... Match that to the fact that I only have a #6250 GVWR on the truck!
When I go camping for just a long weekend, I haul some firewood, my tool box, portable BBQ and other nick knacks that add up quick, so I know I'm over GVWR when it's all said and done!
Mitch
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8iron.. I don't know, but the truck weighs about #5700 coming out of the dump scales after I've dumped! That's with me and usually my wife on board too. (I've gone in usually weighing around #6500). If I go in with my little utility trailer in tow, it's more of course and my utility trailer only weighs about #650 empty.
I don't even have all that much stuff in the truck, but it does have stuff in it that rides around all the time... Match that to the fact that I only have a #6250 GVWR on the truck!
When I go camping for just a long weekend, I haul some firewood, my tool box, portable BBQ and other nick knacks that add up quick, so I know I'm over GVWR when it's all said and done!
Mitch
I don't even have all that much stuff in the truck, but it does have stuff in it that rides around all the time... Match that to the fact that I only have a #6250 GVWR on the truck!
When I go camping for just a long weekend, I haul some firewood, my tool box, portable BBQ and other nick knacks that add up quick, so I know I'm over GVWR when it's all said and done!
Mitch
#20
Yep, that's what it all boils down too.... Technically, "payload" is anything added to the truck after it gets it's weight.... I probably have a 'lot' of actual payload... I'm just using most of it up as it sits there right now with all my stuff in it.... And the wife would be considered 'payload'.... But don't tell her that! ha, ha!!
What's your trucks GVWR? Probably #7200 right? Well, if your truck weighs in at #5748 then that would be correct for your payload amount too. I'll bet if you weigh it, you might find it weighs a bit more then when they originally calculated that 'payload' amount for you....
Mitch
What's your trucks GVWR? Probably #7200 right? Well, if your truck weighs in at #5748 then that would be correct for your payload amount too. I'll bet if you weigh it, you might find it weighs a bit more then when they originally calculated that 'payload' amount for you....
Mitch
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Regardless of all this talk on GVCWs and all....if you decide to stay the course with your truck and trailer, get yourself some Firestone airbags for the rear. They will *GREATLY* improve your ride and give stability. Also add at least 8 ply tires. We haul over 15K total vehicle weight several times a year with our wood cutting operation and a 8X20 trailer piled 5-6 feet high.
#25
No matter what towing equipment you have, a F150 will start to strain on any steep grades once you hit around 8000#. I have efans, Gryphon with custom tunes, intake, exhaust, super springs, and 4.56s with 35s and my 6500# dry toy hauler is a beast to pull up long grades. Put in an auxiliary transmission cooler asap, the 5.4 is built like a champ and will tow at 3500 rpm uphill all day, but the transmission will start to cook after about 10 minutes on a steep grade at 30-45 mph. Personally, I think the F150 is only 100% bulletproof towing up to about 6800#, after that it starts to work really hard on hills.
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No matter what towing equipment you have, a F150 will start to strain on any steep grades once you hit around 8000#. I have efans, Gryphon with custom tunes, intake, exhaust, super springs, and 4.56s with 35s and my 6500# dry toy hauler is a beast to pull up long grades. Put in an auxiliary transmission cooler asap, the 5.4 is built like a champ and will tow at 3500 rpm uphill all day, but the transmission will start to cook after about 10 minutes on a steep grade at 30-45 mph. Personally, I think the F150 is only 100% bulletproof towing up to about 6800#, after that it starts to work really hard on hills.
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Haha I'm sure I could pull anything up to about 9k with my 31" stock tires and 4.56s. But driving 200 miles to Pismo Beach would cost a fortune lol. The truck tows 8300# really easily on mild hills as is, it's just the big mountain passes that can cause some white knuckle moments.