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Old 09-13-2009 | 08:23 PM
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winch question????

Tractor supply is having a sale and there is a champion 3000lb winch for 89.99.

Is champion a good company? I will be putting it on my car trailer.

Is a car too much for a 3000lb winch???
 
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Old 09-13-2009 | 08:45 PM
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i had a 7500lb champion winch on my jeep so did a bubby of mine we never had and problems with ours and they saw frequent use.
 
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Old 09-13-2009 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mudkickin4x4
Tractor supply is having a sale and there is a champion 3000lb winch for 89.99.

Is champion a good company? I will be putting it on my car trailer.

Is a car too much for a 3000lb winch???
Depends on the Car to be truthful. My friend has a 12K lb winch on his gooseneck and has stalled it.

That being said I'd go no less then 8K lbs and 12 or 16K if I had the $$$$.
 
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Old 09-13-2009 | 10:35 PM
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The maximum rating on winches is with a full spool of wire. The longer you let it out, the worse the gear ratio on the spool and the less you can pull.

That's why on the Gooseneck trailer there was probably a lot of cable out reducing its capacity to pull.

A 3k winch would be great for hauling game onto a trailer or pulling up ATV's.
A light car with not much slope on the ramps would work ok also.

BUT, have the tow vehicle facing up a grade and have short ramps and it might have trouble pulling a car onto the trailer. Of course these can be remedied by just turning the tow vehicle and trailer downhill.... but sometimes this is not possible.
 
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Old 09-13-2009 | 11:07 PM
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well my trailer is a 16 ft and is very low to the ground, it drags everywhere so there would be not much incline at all, i guess i will buy it and try it out and take it back if needed
 
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Old 09-14-2009 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Colorado Osprey
The maximum rating on winches is with a full spool of wire. The longer you let it out, the worse the gear ratio on the spool and the less you can pull.
I'm pertty sure that is the opposite of that but I could be wrong.
 
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Old 09-14-2009 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Colorado Osprey
The maximum rating on winches is with a full spool of wire. The longer you let it out, the worse the gear ratio on the spool and the less you can pull.

That's why on the Gooseneck trailer there was probably a lot of cable out reducing its capacity to pull.

A 3k winch would be great for hauling game onto a trailer or pulling up ATV's.
A light car with not much slope on the ramps would work ok also.

BUT, have the tow vehicle facing up a grade and have short ramps and it might have trouble pulling a car onto the trailer. Of course these can be remedied by just turning the tow vehicle and trailer downhill.... but sometimes this is not possible.
Wrong. The winch will be weaker with a spool full of cable than with the cable spooled all the way out.

And turning the tow vehicle and trailer downhill to load a car with a winch is a BAD idea.
 
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Old 09-14-2009 | 07:13 PM
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To the OP, it is typically a good idea to have a winch rated for twice the weight you intend to pull.

Also remember you can increase the pull strength of the winch by doubling the cable.
 
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Old 09-14-2009 | 11:31 PM
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whoops... thanks guys!
 
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Old 09-15-2009 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mudkickin4x4
Tractor supply is having a sale and there is a champion 3000lb winch for 89.99.

Is champion a good company? I will be putting it on my car trailer.

Is a car too much for a 3000lb winch???
When I sold my open trailer I took off my Superwinch S4500 and put a no name 2500 from the cheap tool store. I had put 3/4 ton suburbans on the open trailer with no trouble. Even put a dodge 4x4 with a locked up wheel bearing one time. The 2500 would not even pull a 1/2 short bed up the ramps. I felt bad about that, but the 4500 works great in my enclosed trailer now. Just wish I had spent the bucks for a wireless remote.

Steve
 
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Old 09-15-2009 | 10:29 AM
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That will be plenty of winch. I am using one rated at 2,000 lbs I believe. You are not pulling dead weight, look at how much it will pull rolling. I am using a Superwinch T2000, or something like that - it is small. It will pull a 3,200 lb car onto a trailer that it always uphill becauue I have to back onto a set of ramps to get the rear of the trailer low enough to the ground the headers do not drag. Now if I ever tore up a rear gear or something like that and had to get it onto the trailer I doubt the little winch would do it.
 
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Old 09-15-2009 | 08:19 PM
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Well im kinda starting a little side business getting cars and scrapping them, so i might need to get a bigger winch cause i never know what i could be in for...ya know
 
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Old 09-17-2009 | 10:02 AM
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An easy way to double your pull is to get a ****** block. Also the first layer of cable on the drum will pull the hardest. The more cable you have out the harder it pulls. I recommend these people. Motoalliance, just add a www and a .com in the right places. They are stand up people and I assure you they will bend over backwards to help you out if you ever have a problem with it.
 



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