Help demistify the TV - Hitch - Trailers
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Help demistify the TV - Hitch - Trailers
Hello!
I have been lurking here for a while now, but now have a question.
I just bought a new 2010 F150 King Ranch truck with the MAX Tow Package and integrated brake controller. The truck came with the Ford Class 4 hitch. I have been trying to figure out which Ball Mount to use with my trailer. The trailer is a tandum axle enclosed cargo trailer with a GTW of 7000#.
The trucks OM states the max trailer weight is 9600# or 11200# with MAX Tow package. The hitch reciever says that it is rated at 500# tounge weight and 5000 TW. But it states that the vehicle specs may be different.
All of the hitch sites state that the Class 4 hitch is capable of towing a 10,000 trailer with a 1,000# tonge weight. Depending on which site you read they state that any trailer over 5000 requires a WD hitch while others state that you can pull 8000 without a WD setup.
Can someone tell me if i can pull my 7000# GVW trailer without using a WD hitch since the Tonge weight will be 700#.
I understand that the 700# tonge weight counts against the trucks GVAW.
Thanks you for any info you can provide.
Dave
I have been lurking here for a while now, but now have a question.
I just bought a new 2010 F150 King Ranch truck with the MAX Tow Package and integrated brake controller. The truck came with the Ford Class 4 hitch. I have been trying to figure out which Ball Mount to use with my trailer. The trailer is a tandum axle enclosed cargo trailer with a GTW of 7000#.
The trucks OM states the max trailer weight is 9600# or 11200# with MAX Tow package. The hitch reciever says that it is rated at 500# tounge weight and 5000 TW. But it states that the vehicle specs may be different.
All of the hitch sites state that the Class 4 hitch is capable of towing a 10,000 trailer with a 1,000# tonge weight. Depending on which site you read they state that any trailer over 5000 requires a WD hitch while others state that you can pull 8000 without a WD setup.
Can someone tell me if i can pull my 7000# GVW trailer without using a WD hitch since the Tonge weight will be 700#.
I understand that the 700# tonge weight counts against the trucks GVAW.
Thanks you for any info you can provide.
Dave
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You need a WD hitch. The hitch is rated to 500lbs tongue without it.
Yes the 700lbs needs to be included when figuring GVWR, just like any passengers, cargo etc. Also you need to stay withing you GAWR (axle ratings) and GCWR (weight of vehicle and trailer).
With the max tow though, I don't see any problems with any of those numbers as long as you do have a WD hitch.
The 9600 or 11200 are nice numbers, but unrealistic when you have to take into consideration the others. Only able to tow that much with no cargo, driver only, stripped down model, etc. Best thing you can do is weigh the truck with normal passengers to get your starting point.
Yes the 700lbs needs to be included when figuring GVWR, just like any passengers, cargo etc. Also you need to stay withing you GAWR (axle ratings) and GCWR (weight of vehicle and trailer).
With the max tow though, I don't see any problems with any of those numbers as long as you do have a WD hitch.
The 9600 or 11200 are nice numbers, but unrealistic when you have to take into consideration the others. Only able to tow that much with no cargo, driver only, stripped down model, etc. Best thing you can do is weigh the truck with normal passengers to get your starting point.
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I've towed without the WD hitch only short distances (less than five miles) on flat roads and only with no cargo other than me (when I need to move the trailer from where it's stored to my house). Otherwise, I use a WD hitch (which I have to borrow from my buddy). It's on my Christmas list though.
The trailer is a storage trailer for camping gear for a Boy Scout troop.
I have 2010 FX4 SCREW with long bed and max tow package.
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The reason you want a Weight Distributing (WD) hitch is to equalize the load on each axle of the Tow Vehicle (TV).
Yes, without a WD hitch, the back sags and the front lifts and some people put air lift suspensions on the rear axle to compensate and bring the front down, but - that HUGE load is still on the rear axle! (It's probably overloaded, which is not good for your tires or anything else attached to it).
The WD hitch actually shifts, through an ingenious "lever arrangement" the tongue load forward on your TV so that it's applied equally to the front and rear axles (if set up properly).
With a WD hitch, you are hopefully going to stay within the GAWR rating (which you find on your door sticker) of your TV.
A 7000# trailer set up to transfer 10-15% of the load to the tongue will have a tongue weight of 700-1050#. You most definitely need a 1000# WD hitch, and, you may find that you are overloading your TV's axles even with that.
I strongly urge you to take the TV and trailer to a CAT scale and have the combination weighed. You want to know the weight on each of your TV's axles (and the trailer's axles) - which gives you the Combined Weight.
- Jack
Yes, without a WD hitch, the back sags and the front lifts and some people put air lift suspensions on the rear axle to compensate and bring the front down, but - that HUGE load is still on the rear axle! (It's probably overloaded, which is not good for your tires or anything else attached to it).
The WD hitch actually shifts, through an ingenious "lever arrangement" the tongue load forward on your TV so that it's applied equally to the front and rear axles (if set up properly).
With a WD hitch, you are hopefully going to stay within the GAWR rating (which you find on your door sticker) of your TV.
A 7000# trailer set up to transfer 10-15% of the load to the tongue will have a tongue weight of 700-1050#. You most definitely need a 1000# WD hitch, and, you may find that you are overloading your TV's axles even with that.
I strongly urge you to take the TV and trailer to a CAT scale and have the combination weighed. You want to know the weight on each of your TV's axles (and the trailer's axles) - which gives you the Combined Weight.
- Jack
Last edited by JackandJanet; 11-09-2010 at 09:50 PM.
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