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Old 02-11-2010, 07:36 PM
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Help: 1998 V6 engine knock (video)

we've got a friend of a friend that brought us this truck at work. 4.2L 5spd 1998 all stock. 110,000 on the ticker.

Loud engine knock, deep inside the engine.


Here's what we've done so far:
  • Belt removed
  • Pulled each wire off the coil pack individually no change in sound
  • No SES or codes present
  • sound stays with clutch applied in N or driving

This guy is on a very limited budget, can't pay to keep towing it places. Trying to figure out what the next step is besides tearing it all apart just to find out we need a long block

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIuHsXRYGWs



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-Patrick
 

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Old 02-11-2010, 10:44 PM
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sounds like a wrist pin. or a bent pushrod or a flat lifter. whats the compression readings?

how well was the oil changed?
 
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Old 02-16-2010, 08:50 PM
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well we started to do a compression check to see how the engine performs, and well pulled out original spark plugs (original wires too) and we found some coolant in #1 cylinder, atleast i think its #1.... Its front on passenger side.

we are gonna dry everything off, reassemble, run it and if the noise is gone im gonna do a lower intake gasket on it, and if it still is noisy with everything dried out it will probably need a new engine
 
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Old 02-16-2010, 09:07 PM
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oh and that same cylinder gave us 210 PSI on the gauge after 4 compression strokes
 
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Originally Posted by Faster150
sounds like a wrist pin. or a bent pushrod or a flat lifter.
I agree. Not good in any case, especially with the coolant found in a cylinder.
 
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yea like i said the owner has no money, and we are trying everything we can to make sure that it doesnt need an engine before we condemn it. I hate to shotgun an engine and just make him eat it....


do you know what normal 4.2 compression should be at off the top of your head Quintin?
 
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No, but 210 psi sounds good. Pull all the plugs and check the entire engine, make sure you've got a stout battery so you get even and consistent cranking speed, and block the throttle wide open while you're testing. You shouldn't see any more than a 10-15% difference between cylinders.
 
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The front pass cylinder should be the #4, #1 is front driver side.
 
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The front pass cylinder should be the #4, #1 is front driver side.
When did they change that? #1 has been front passenger side on Fords ever since I remember.
 
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build date of 08/97 we definitely have the old style crappy intake gaskets on it
 
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When did they change that? #1 has been front passenger side on Fords ever since I remember.
I'll double check my manual to be sure.
 
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Originally Posted by glc
When did they change that? #1 has been front passenger side on Fords ever since I remember.
My Chiltons reports:

Front

1 4
2 5
3 6

Rear
 

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Your Chilton's manual is wrong.
 
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Originally Posted by Quintin
Your Chilton's manual is wrong.
Then which is the correct direction?
 
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Originally Posted by Raptor05121
My Chiltons reports:

Front

1 4
2 5
3 6

Rear
standing infront of the truck looking down at the engine its:

3 v 6
2 v 5
1 v 4
 


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