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Old 03-08-2008 | 02:14 AM
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hey guys, the cam im looking at getting for my truck requires a few things like raised comp.,springs,exhaust, intake,and a stall converter..the converter is the only thing i dont have..do i need it or is it just recommeded because the power band of the cam is 2000-5800..let me know..thanks
 
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Old 03-08-2008 | 11:10 AM
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for optimal performance... yes you need exactly what they tell you that you need. Your truck will drive. but it will be doggy off the line without the higher stall converter because your engine won't be making good power that low of an rpm. Once your rolling into the RPM range, the truck will go like it is suposed to. sounds like a pretty quick truck... nice
 
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Old 03-08-2008 | 11:14 AM
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unless you are only drag racing the truck, a stall isnt NEEDED, but it will help. driving around town or w/e you will be just fine. Better valve springs are a must though.
 
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Old 03-08-2008 | 11:36 AM
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HI!... If I were you I'd get a PI "STALLION" converter with a 2800-3000 stall. Make sure before you order that you give PI the exact weight of your truck with driver.
 
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Old 03-08-2008 | 01:32 PM
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thanks guys...i figured the stall was needed just for the drag racing part of it..so as of right now im not going to get one since its not needed..thanks for the info...
 
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Old 03-08-2008 | 04:24 PM
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Boss, I'd rethink the cam. If the truck is going to be a street rig you are going to have drivabilty issues that you might not be aware of. You can forget overdrive as the engine is going to lug big time with that cam. Valve life is going to be short. You'll have to go with something like 5.29 gears to get it back where it needs to be. Fuel mileage will be a non-issue as you won't have any. You may find that premium pump gas won't get it either. You may have to use a blend of pump and barrel fuel to keep the low end knocking/pinging down or detune the engine to keep it together. Now if you can live with all of that, keep on truckin' and forget what the ol' man said.
 
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Old 03-08-2008 | 05:15 PM
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Boss, I'd rethink the cam. If the truck is going to be a street rig you are going to have drivabilty issues that you might not be aware of. You can forget overdrive as the engine is going to lug big time with that cam. Valve life is going to be short. You'll have to go with something like 5.29 gears to get it back where it needs to be. Fuel mileage will be a non-issue as you won't have any. You may find that premium pump gas won't get it either. You may have to use a blend of pump and barrel fuel to keep the low end knocking/pinging down or detune the engine to keep it together. Now if you can live with all of that, keep on truckin' and forget what the ol' man said.
Not really. My cam grinds are rated at 2000-6500 rpm. I have no driveability problems at all. its all in the tune at what octane you can run. overdrive has no problems at all for me.
 
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Old 03-09-2008 | 03:04 PM
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i think thats about the same range of cam im getting BUILT..we have 93 octane as im sure built does..also im going to clinton,Il to get tuned by Anderson Ford..he tunes Brian Meyers mustang the back to back WFC champion
 
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Old 03-09-2008 | 04:01 PM
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well he should tune it good then, we both have good tuners, my tuner tunes bigfoot lol...
 
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Old 03-09-2008 | 04:23 PM
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Built, what cam are you running now? I believe you were running the Comp 102500 at one time and it's not that much of a cam. Back in the day, we'd call that a weak 3/4 cam. I like Comp Cams and have several in my trucks including the 102200 in a 4.6 which is also a weak 3/4 cam but more designed for pulling which is why I have it. Obviously, if the cam is a 102500 you won't need a stall converter. Move up to a 102700 and the game changes.
 
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Old 03-09-2008 | 07:42 PM
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Built, what cam are you running now? I believe you were running the Comp 102500 at one time and it's not that much of a cam. Back in the day, we'd call that a weak 3/4 cam. I like Comp Cams and have several in my trucks including the 102200 in a 4.6 which is also a weak 3/4 cam but more designed for pulling which is why I have it. Obviously, if the cam is a 102500 you won't need a stall converter. Move up to a 102700 and the game changes.
Yeah I had the 102500, but the cams I have now are nothing like that one, still no issues at all.
 
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Old 03-09-2008 | 08:05 PM
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HI!... I'm running a custom COMP CAM 102-000-9L and a stall converter of 2800 is a must. Still very streetable though.

 
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Old 03-09-2008 | 10:24 PM
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Neal, I have an almost identical grind in a 410 CuIn FE except mine has more lift. I run a normal converter in the C6 but have the pressure turned up a bit. It's marginal for street use and you don't want to get stuck in any traffic with it as it tends to load up the cylinders. But it works pretty good. It also has the adjustable cam timing. I have it set at 2 degrees retard. That throws the cam coming on earlier. An FE is not a high winding engine but this combo makes for loads of grunt from 1500 thru 4500. Even running 3.00 gears in the back it's easy to light the 275x50x15 tires up in third gear from a 30 mph roll.
 
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Old 03-09-2008 | 10:26 PM
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cams in those engines and modulars are nothing alike though....
 
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Old 03-09-2008 | 10:51 PM
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HI!... Ya my cam is actually for a single turbo set-up. Was planning on going that route until a engine failure due to a engine builder I used. It made good pwer from 2600-2800 rpm and pulled hard all the way up to 6800RPM. Would of been a blast with the T-76 I was going to run at the time.
 


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