What is your take on replacing COPs

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Old 12-22-2009 | 11:31 AM
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http://www.annarbor.com/business-rev...manufacturing/

Quote from article regarding Ypsilanti plant (which used to be part of Ford before being spun-off into Visteon, then ACH, then shut down): "Before the plant closed, employees made starter motors and ignition coils".

When the plant closed, some of the production was transferred to the Ford Rawsonville plant.

Here is one of my friend's resume who used to work at these locations. This is his resume looking for another job:

http://www.linkedin.com/in/billmorrow

Quote from his resume: "The Ypsilanti plant transfered its ignition products to the Ford Rawsonville plant and was closed in early 2009."

And a Ann Arbor news article, discussing the move of starter and ignition products to the Rawsonville plant:

http://blog.mlive.com/annarbornews/2...progresse.html

Quote from the article: "Meanwhile, the Ypsilanti ACH plant is still on schedule to close by the end of the year, said ACH spokeswoman Della DiPietro. That plant's equipment and work is being moved to the Ford Rawsonville plant in nearby Ypsilanti Township. "

From what I'm told, the Ford Rawsonville plant is currently making all of the ignition coils for the 5.4's, 4.6's, 4.0L's and I4's. Will they remain in production there far into the future, probably not. So what did you say that Ford does not make ignition coils? My life and many of my friend/co-worker lives were affected by this change, I don't find it too funny.
 
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Old 12-22-2009 | 11:41 AM
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They don't make the actual coil. Yes it's hilarious that you believe that.
 
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Old 12-22-2009 | 12:20 PM
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Well, when you can put your finger on the actual coil winder, and is potted and then baked like I have - you would believe also. Part of the equipment that was transferred over to Rawsonville was a bunch of the coil winders. They do not import coils for the cop's they currently make - which are basically the Coil on Plugs, not the pencil coils, or the coil packs.

What is funny is that you assume something without fact, just because you get parts that look similar (China is really good at reverse engineering everything) you assume that is the supplier. It might be for the cop's that are not made at the Raws plant as I don't know who that supplier is.

If you want quality COP's, get a Ford OEM part. More expensive yes, more reliable yes, it is really up to the end user to decide.
 
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Old 12-22-2009 | 01:23 PM
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Well, when you can put your finger on the actual coil winder, and is potted and then baked like I have - you would believe also. Part of the equipment that was transferred over to Rawsonville was a bunch of the coil winders. They do not import coils for the cop's they currently make - which are basically the Coil on Plugs, not the pencil coils, or the coil packs.

What is funny is that you assume something without fact, just because you get parts that look similar (China is really good at reverse engineering everything) you assume that is the supplier. It might be for the cop's that are not made at the Raws plant as I don't know who that supplier is.

If you want quality COP's, get a Ford OEM part. More expensive yes, more reliable yes, it is really up to the end user to decide.
I've already posted the facts which you have failed to do, I'm still waiting to see what you come up with. There is no way in hell that Global automotive would purchase coils from Ford and sell at a cheaper cost. That the ONLY other way and that can't be true. I've seen cheap coils and good ones. Global purchases from the same distributor Ford does, period. I've done the side by side comparisons and actually tested both and yes, Ive worked for Ford. Your full of ****. Just like a troll would be. They ARE IDENTICAL.
 

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Old 12-22-2009 | 01:41 PM
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I've only had to change one coil in over 200,400 miles.... It was good ol' #4 when the heater hose leaked on it... I had it done at the dealer, only because the truck only had 80,000 miles on it at the time and I was not in a position to deal with it myself... At any rate, it cost me more $$$, but it was worth it to me at the time...

Truck still runs smooth and has plenty of power for towing... I can't complain..

Mitch
 
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Old 12-22-2009 | 04:48 PM
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What proof do you want, pictures of the manufacture floor at Raws since news articles don't mean **** to you. And I'm not a damn troll, I've been on this board for almost 10 years, mainly to learn. But it burns me, when somebody says Ford gets a certain part from China when in fact it doesn't. I worked at both plants in question and currently still work for Ford. Does Ford get other parts from the world, heck yes but not in this case.

As a matter of fact, just talked with the mfger supv at Raws to confirm what I already have said. I will guarantee you, that if I post pictures on this board showing you the results, I will go thru every single of your post, call you a damn troll and say your flimsy testing "side by side" results is a laughing joke.

Edit to say that it is a possibility Global Automotive buys scrap coils from the plant and sells them thru aftermarket avenues. They can become scrap thru a number of means: from parts simply being dropped on the floor to testing failures.
 

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Old 12-22-2009 | 04:59 PM
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Ok, guys. That's enough. No winner, no loser. You both know what you know and lets drop it.
 
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Old 12-22-2009 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MitchF150
I've only had to change one coil in over 200,400 miles.... It was good ol' #4 when the heater hose leaked on it... I had it done at the dealer, only because the truck only had 80,000 miles on it at the time and I was not in a position to deal with it myself... At any rate, it cost me more $$$, but it was worth it to me at the time...

Truck still runs smooth and has plenty of power for towing... I can't complain..

Mitch
Your lucky Mitch with those miles. I've had more Yellow tagged MOTORCRAFT/Honeywell coils from the Romeo crates fail than any. Your other seven must be Green tagged. Honestly, not one Global has failed yet. Your replacement was most likley newer (not that it really matters) and that heater hose is a killer for sure, the yellows i had came from 01 and 02 Crown Vic boxes.
 

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Old 12-22-2009 | 10:11 PM
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I don't recall what color they had on them, but yellow does not stand out as one of them. No matter, they have stood the test of time.. Oh, I miss typed above and I have over 204,000 miles on it now..

Mitch
 
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Old 12-23-2009 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MitchF150
I don't recall what color they had on them, but yellow does not stand out as one of them. No matter, they have stood the test of time.. Oh, I miss typed above and I have over 204,000 miles on it now..

Mitch
Yea originals are the Green labels. Thicker boots and brass connectors inside. Newer replacements were black w/stamp and went to stainless inserts and went to cheaper silicon boots lol.



But I've seen these on a few 04's, -Lincolns. So they were in circulation for awhile -



Oh well , who the frick cares as long as it's running good right

Happy Holidays Mitch.
 

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Old 12-24-2009 | 01:17 PM
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I use the Globals. Last week one failed so I installed one of the OEMs till I can order a new set of Globals. Then I will have 7 spares.

To each his own.

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