Y'all can stop now - LOL. I pulled the Fram filter and not a lot came out. I quickly installed a new Motorcraft filter and topped off the oil. Good to go now. I had recently had an oil change and it wasn't necessary to do the whole thing again, just wanted to swap out the Fram filter that got put on there.

 

ah, good move. see if you woulda put that before, you would have had a little less heckling directed your way lol. i have mobil1 oil and filter on my 08 V6. i like mobil 1. use it in everything since i was impressed by what it did for my 96 trans am i had 6 years ago.

 

I pulled one off a 98 Windstar 3.8L that was completly dry. The motor had just blown, but it was the pickup screen that plugged. Engine only had about 66,000 miles on it. I have a feeling those filters backwash into the pan, -just a guess.

 

It's a tough call on those dry filters jbrew. I've seen some that failed cold test in the plant for zero oil pressure. We would mount them on a engine stand and motor them with an air starter mounted to the damper. Crank them at 350 rpm and sure enough no pressure. One of the guys reached down and loosened the oil filter and suddenly there is normal oil pressure. It acted like an air lock. We removed the filters on the other zero pressure rejects and found no oil in the filters at all, just like brand new. Cranked the engines with the filters off and after a few seconds oil shot out of the spout onto the floor. Reinstalled the filter and they both had excellant pressure. We only ever had 4 or 5 of those in all the years I was there. Sometimes customers or mechanics drain the oil during and oil change and forget to put the new oil in, start the engine and lock it up. They realize what they did and then pour the oil in the engine but now its too late. Gets towed to the dealer and everyone is scratching their heads trying to figure why this engine crapped out. Had a few police engines come in that were seized up. Same thing brand new oil with none in the filter at all filters looked like brand new inside. Called the police dept. The chief tells me "Well we are a little suspicious because we allowed a couple of our new prisoners to perform maintenance on our patrol cars, change the oil etc. and we think there may have been some payback involved" Gotta love it. The police could do anything to an engine and still get a new one so no loss for them. We got a few laughs from that one. Any way my point is if the filter is dry and like new inside there are several things that can cause it. However once the oil reaches the filter there should always be at least some oil still in that filter. Take care.

 

Stop leak maybe. I saw some dumb *** do that once..

 

So that's why some still like filling the filter with oil before install I expect. Kind of hard to do with a horizontal filter tho lol. But yea, the one I pulled was indeed dry and the pickup screen was plugged. Took a pic of it, nasty -

 

I think the person your referring to wanted a better excuse for purchasing a new motor. One much better than just a little ole head gasket leak anyway

 

Looks like its been exposed to water for a while with all that rust on the pickup end. Also appears that the opposite end of the tube took a hit from a broken rod maybe?

 

You got it = "rod". That picture doesn't do it justice really. I kept that pickup tube for awhile - show and tell purposes. When I first pulled it from the engine, you couldn't see the screen lol. I don't recall that rust on it , that came from sitting around the shop.

But that fee fee (vehicle owner) couldn't remember when the oil was changed last, she said that her ex husband use to take of that when they were together.

I mention that to a friend of hers that I knew up town one evening. This is what her friend said, -QUOTE: That explains it, she divorced more than 5 years ago.

So, yea

 

Brew- does the rust even rust in the rust belt? I know, I grew up in the mid-west but I escaped a lot of years ago.