O2 sensors
#2
First - know that you have 4 of these.
Wellsir - the FRONT O2's are Primary sensors. They control A/F's in closed loop, and are crucial to power, emissions and mileage.
The rears are Cat monitors - hence are less crucial.
O2's can fail in as little as 20k (or even less, in extreme cases); it depends on fuel quality, any additive usage (octane boosters, Seafoam crappola, etc). Or, they can last far longer.
The only way to know - other than outright failures that trigger a code - is to directly measure their switchrates. This is easy for a person that has the proper diag equipment ( or a datalogging-capable programmer like SCT sells).
FWIW - I change my fronts no later than @ ~30K-40K miles - and I do track switchrate waveforms - I log when they are fresh and watch them periodically. Yeah, I'm **** - not much else to do when snowbound fer 6 months ( well... there is .... *hint-hint* )
Finally - it's been suggested by a very knowledgeable person on here that OEM are the first-choice replacements, with Bosch being second. OEM gets the nod for optimum responsiveness and accuracy (at a price).
Good luck, sir.
MGD
Last edited by MGDfan; 10-16-2010 at 08:11 PM.
#4
Rob - refer to this post for more info on O2 replacement.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/1356622-post2.html
You can call TP to discuss further if you wish - and it's good advice.
MGD
https://www.f150online.com/forums/1356622-post2.html
You can call TP to discuss further if you wish - and it's good advice.
MGD
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BUT, the factory installed O2's (OEM's), should last 100,000 miles easily. I would replace them all at that point, - not just the forwards, for a couple reasons. - Quick switching response / and they can lock in place stripping the bung upon removal, if you neglect them to long. Believe me , I know lol.
#11
Since we're talking O2 sensors and what to look for.
I just changed my front O2's last night and did some data collection with the scal2. Like a dumba$$ I didn't think to grab data before the change so I have no reference point. Still a bit pissed at myself for that.
Very weird my #1 bank voltage was bouncing all over gods creation-non stop. From my understanding that's normal.
Now the #2 bank voltage is pretty steady and hovers around .7 volts. Really never bounces-just hovers.
If I give it the onion, I see both voltages move around. Sometimes in the same direction. Sometimes in the opposite direction. IE. bank 1 goes high to low. Bank 2 goes low to high.
When you run the average for the voltages from each bank. Between .5 and .6 when you get rid of some of the outlying data.(under .1 volts)
I'm thinking I have a problem somewhere, cause I would think they should be acting the same. Especially since I reaplced both at the same time with the same part number.
Or am I just freaking cause I'm a freak?
I've got 85k on the orginal O2's, no code, but I do have black soot on my tailpipe, hence the change out. 05 5.4 with efan,ud pulley, airforce 1 3.5" intake, corsa exhaust, and troyer tunes on xcal.
I just changed my front O2's last night and did some data collection with the scal2. Like a dumba$$ I didn't think to grab data before the change so I have no reference point. Still a bit pissed at myself for that.
Very weird my #1 bank voltage was bouncing all over gods creation-non stop. From my understanding that's normal.
Now the #2 bank voltage is pretty steady and hovers around .7 volts. Really never bounces-just hovers.
If I give it the onion, I see both voltages move around. Sometimes in the same direction. Sometimes in the opposite direction. IE. bank 1 goes high to low. Bank 2 goes low to high.
When you run the average for the voltages from each bank. Between .5 and .6 when you get rid of some of the outlying data.(under .1 volts)
I'm thinking I have a problem somewhere, cause I would think they should be acting the same. Especially since I reaplced both at the same time with the same part number.
Or am I just freaking cause I'm a freak?
I've got 85k on the orginal O2's, no code, but I do have black soot on my tailpipe, hence the change out. 05 5.4 with efan,ud pulley, airforce 1 3.5" intake, corsa exhaust, and troyer tunes on xcal.
#12
That way you something to compare. It's kind off no good without that data to evaluate, as your trying to do.
#13
LOL if it's me....and I'm not the smallest guy....and found my hand kinda stuck and cramped trying to do the right side O2.........1 hour. 34 seconds for the left in case you we're wondering.
Maybe I should just grease my whole body down in vasoline.
Any idea which is the #1 bank and #2 bank?
Maybe I should just grease my whole body down in vasoline.
Any idea which is the #1 bank and #2 bank?
#15
Sad but true, my O2 sensors have 146k on them now. they outlasted the 4.6 that was originally in my truck. when I swapped in the 5.4 they were spot on. so I'm still running them. get 21 mpg highway.
I think you'll be fine.
If in doubt, do as already mentioned and have someone, or yourself test them and see how they're reading.
I think you'll be fine.
If in doubt, do as already mentioned and have someone, or yourself test them and see how they're reading.