Guys get over it Chevy makes the best transmissions and engines. The 4.8 is a total kill on the weak 4.6 engine. Read the cop internet pages they like the old caprice chevy engines and transmissions better than the new clown vics. Engine durability on chevy pushrod engines is a lock. OHC is a joke. My Ford I am driving now is a mere shadow of the 5.7L chevy engine. The 4.2 is a joke I am so sorry I bought one. It is a BLACK day for ford when a 5.7L chevy engine gets better milage than a ford V-6 4.2L engine.

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98 F-150 XL 4x4, 4.2L, 5sp, 3.55LS, tow package, 8ft box, 255/70R16

 

Hi again KKirt1,

What I find interesting, is that my dad's early production 1999 (built in 1998) has different exhaust manifolds. The design is not far from headers. However, the intake appears very similar to my 1997. Now, after all this FQR business with my truck, I went to the local dealership to try to make some comparisions. I looked at a late production 1999 and an early production 2000 - both had the same intake manifold which did not match mine or the version in my dad's 1999 truck.

What I think is going on, is that Ford is constantly making revisions, enhancements, and upgrades as they go along, rather then making dramatic changes on a model year basis.

I will keep researching this, but this motor clearly demonstrates more low-end torque than the original. What might be more telling, will be the mileage results I get once I am out of the break-in period. If this is a higher output motor, then I would expect my mileage to decrease slightly.

Regards,

DirkR
1997 F-150 4x4 5.4L S/C ORP

 

Sorry you feel that way Lee Erickson...
Too bad Chevy engines can't touch the TORQUE at LOW RPM like a FORD engine can (similar size that is). You say OHC is a joke? NOT! Why do you think EVERYONE is going in that direction? The two best trucks on the road (Ford F-150 and Toyota Tundra) both have OHC. Push rods are ancient and soon to die. Welcome to the 21st Century!

CHEVY: 1999 315 ft/lbs @ 4000 RPM
FORD: 1999 345 ft/lbs @ 2300 RPM

Guess if you need RAW PULLING power..the FORD wins..AGAIN! TORQUE wins EVERY time!

 

Dusty ,

Ford even admits to the modular design is not built for trucks. Chevy on the other hand is a truck motor. Not a warmed over clown vic engine. Funny the police cars are having problems with the plastic manifolds and cheap *** transmissions lasting 20,000 miles. Ford tuff not. So why don't you pray to the F-150 God tonight and ask for a real truck engine.

I my self am looking for a 98 1/2 chevy truck to get a 5.7L engine again. BTW for 00 chevy trucks a 4.10 rear gear ratio is available plus more HP and torque so when a 2000 blows you doors off you know why.

My truck has been reliable and has had no problems besides a cheap JAP tranny. I just do not have enough power for towing my toys around. I have to use 4 th gear and rev the **** out of it on the highway and get terrible milage. To get to torque peak in 4th gear is 3,000 rpm at 74 mph towing 3,000 pounds. Milage is 12.47 mpg my old 1990 chevy towed the exact load and got 15mpg and still had passing power.



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98 F-150 XL 4x4, 4.2L, 5sp, 3.55LS, tow package, 8ft box, 255/70R16

 

Lee you read to much BON, Do you know what the new chevy motors are? Camaro and Corvette motors(high revving car motors) The local police department where I am at say the crown vics are the most reliable. There was even a write up in the local paper on it. I don't have the paper but they had old fords, went to chevies then got two dodges and now they are back to fords. THe fords were more reliable and faster. They went through the chevies and dodges in the last two years. Wether the modular fords were meant to be truck motors are not they sure are doing a good job reliably. You read that alot of people are having problems with fords but they are having more problems with the new chevies than fords. BTW my gas mileage is 17-18.5 mpg. and 16 when pulling and in town.

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1997 4x4 5.4 ORP XLT extended cab Dark Toreador red Westin nerf bars tint HARDER THAN A ROCK AND FASTER THAN A HEART BEAT

 

Tisk Tisk Lee... The MATRIX has you....

Just like ford-tough1 said..I have NEVER heard anything bad about the crown vic police car.
A little more Horsepower does not mean CRAP...and I have YET to see ANY CHEVY truck even touch my 5.4L. Chevy MUST build a ton of RPMs to obtain any sort of TORQUE..which is what you feel when your HEAD SNAPS back at the starting line. Chevy can't touch the FORD LOW END TORQUE.
Sorry you are upset that CHEVY has not jumped on the wagon and started using SOHC/DOHC designed motors...YET! You can REV the crap out of a OHC engine and not hurt it..try that with your push rod engine. Also..there are fewer parts to wear out.

Don't be too hard on yourself that your all mighty CHEVY:
1) Can't even come close to selling the same number of trucks per year (about 870,000 in 1998 alone)someone must really like these trucks....OOPS!
2) FORD has a MUCH better motor design than chevy...so does TOYOTA! OOOPS!
3) The TOYOTA TUNDRA is even faster and has better stats than the *new* Silverado..with a smaller motor...OUCH!
4) Chevy...NO standard 4th DOOR? OOOOPS!
Also, ask yourself, why doesn't CHEVY paint the lower part of the tailgate on two-tone trucks? It looks like someone forgot to finish the paint job and it looks bad, VERY BAD! OOOPS!

Next time..don't buy a 4.2L and go with something with the power and torque that you need. I have never had a problem towing anything.

There won't be any 2000 Chevy trucks "blowing" me off the road. YOU ARE IN THE MATRIX my friend......(you are living in a dream world).

Some good sayings..heh heh----->
HARDER THAN A ROCK AND FASTER THAN A HEART BEAT...
and
THE HEART BEAT STOPS HERE!

Have a wonderful weekend...no hard feelings! My opinion vs yours.

 

The 5.7 is a truck engine. They offer it in HD trucks, Class 8 trucks, class C motorhomes. Ford does not offer the 4.6 in any of those applications. Camaro and truck engines are not the same never have been.

If you want to get down to brass tacks Chrysler made the BEST cop cars period.

If you read my post I want a 98 1/2 chevy with a 5.7L engine not a new one I do not like the smaller displacement motors. Ford or Chevy.

It is nice to see how narrow minded you guys are I bet you could look through a key hole with both eyes.



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98 F-150 XL 4x4, 4.2L, 5sp, 3.55LS, tow package, 8ft box, 255/70R16

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FYI the new 4.8 5.3 and 6.0 motors are related to the camaro and corvette motors. LS1 motors they just have different displacement, how is that for narrow minded. What is the big deal anyway How do you know way back when the 350 was introduced that it was not introduced in a car, I don't know either. Forever 302, 351s and 305, 350s have been offered in cars So what if it is a car motor it is a truck motor too. Truck motors need lowend torque, thats what ford has. They have always offered more torque than chevy with the exception of 1996 when chevy went vortec, but one year later ford came back with the torque monster Tritons. Maybe in the 60s Chrysler had good cop cars but now the crown vics are the best. The 5.4 and 6.8s are in one tons and I thing the 6.8 is in motorhomes, not sure though. From what I hear from chevy owners is that the vortec 350s are much better motors than the new ones. Maybe the market has not had time to make the conversion to the tritons in to heavyier applications.

 

By the way, GM does not offer a 350 in a class 8 truck. Class 8 is a semi tractor, as in Kenworth W900, Peterbuilt 379,etc.

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99 F-150 4X4 Island Blue S/C 5.4 auto Just getting started on it!

 

lee,

Sorry to say but the tritons are more of a truck engine than the Vortec engines that are converted from a {hint hint} LS1 {car engine, again, hint hint}. The Chevy Caprice cop cars ran the LT1, thats why they liked them. They were fast, and handled better than the Fords. Thats fine. But Ford didnt offer as much hp, so they put in a durable engine. And no, Chrysler didnt make the best cop cars, Chevrolet did, atleast in the 1990s. Anyways, in 2003, the Crown Vic Police Interceptor is getting a stronger 4.6l. TO the trucks again, I bet you I could pull 3000-5000lbs of the line quicker than the 4.8l or the 5.3l because its torque is too high up in the rpms. My 4.6l has more torque than the 4.8l! What good is the 4.8l and 5.3l hp and torque if its not on the ground. If you didnt know, they dont dyno that much! And guess what, the 5.4 and 6.8 are offered in the 1 ton trucks! The 6.8 is also offered in motorhomes! Wow, isnt it great to learn that Ford has been ahead of chevy every step of the way?

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Fast46Triton

1999 Ford F150 XLT Supercab, Shortbed, 4x2, 4 wheel disc brakes/4 wheel Anti-Lock Brakes, Cloth Seats, Amazon green, 16" All season tires, Soft Tonneau Cover, CD Player, 4.6 liter Triton V8, 3:55 ls, towing package, 4 speed auto, K&N Airfilter
Future Mods:
1)Superchip
2)Airbox Mod
3)Gibson Exhaust

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And why has Ford been the leader in the Diesel engines for over 7 years? Think the new Duramax will rule. Nope, Ford has that covered. The new Powerstroke 6.0l V8. Making 305hp and over 530ft-lbs of torque.

 

Lee, Have you checked the fit and finish on the new Chevy's? THEY'RE GARBAGE!!! I looked at one my friend bought, and none of the seams along the fenders or hood matched, the paint job was orange peeled, interior trim was crooked, etc. You shut the door on a new Chevy and it sounds and feels flimsy. I traded in a '93 Toyota 4 x4 on my Ford, and I can honestly say the Ford appears to be just as tight and right as my Toyota was. The paint is perfect, everything lines up, no sqeaks or rattles. I agree with you that Chevy makes a good engine, but what good is it if the rest of the truck falls apart around it?

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'99 F-150 XLT 4x4 S/C, 5.4 auto 2 tone Bright Red with Silver, Aluminum Mags. Mods so far: Chrome Westin Nerf Bars, Bedliner, Profile Bug Deflector and Window Air Deflectors, Sony CDX-4250 CD player, Pioneer 6815's front, 6813's rear, BFG AT P265-75R16's.

 

Lee:
Are you a glutton for punishment? Did you think you could come to a fine Ford site like this, pull a few random Chevy specs out of your a**, and get away with it? If you want to do a battle with specs, the intelligent people here will give it to you straight every time. You're outnumbered outgunned, and outclassed. It's not Ford's fault that you needed a high torque motor, but bought a truck with a 4.2L V6. Here's the bottom line on Ford's best light duty truck engine: 5.4 Liters, 265 Hp, and 350 lb-ft. of torque, which is developed by 2500 RPM (where those of us who live in the real world can use it). Move over and let the big dog eat! Chevy can't touch that, period.

selva1

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On order:
2000 XLT Black Sport, Flareside, 2WD, Ext. Cab, 5.4L Auto. Other options include: 3.55, Class III tow, 6-way Captains chairs w/CD changer in console, Remote entry , and Slider window.