any 5.4 problems for the 2000 model ( piston slap and oil leaks)
#16
01-17-2000 | 07:44 PM
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Paradeis--
I lived in north/central Wisconsin for 15 years and my vehicles would always whine when first started in the extreme cold (well near 0 degrees that is). More pronounced the colder it was.
I consider this very normal...as long as it goes away once the engine starts to warm up. An engine block heater should help you out big time (not sure where it goes in the F-150)...it does not get that cold way down here in Georgia! I admit..I FLED the cold!! hahaha
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I lived in north/central Wisconsin for 15 years and my vehicles would always whine when first started in the extreme cold (well near 0 degrees that is). More pronounced the colder it was.
I consider this very normal...as long as it goes away once the engine starts to warm up. An engine block heater should help you out big time (not sure where it goes in the F-150)...it does not get that cold way down here in Georgia! I admit..I FLED the cold!! hahaha
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2000 F-150 XLT, 4x2, 5.4L Supercab, Styleside, Black with silver two-tone, 3.55, class III towing package with heavy duty cooling package, 4 wheel disk ABS, overhead console, sliding rear window, keyless entry, dark graphite interior, in dash CD, Pendaliner bedliner, K&N air filter, rubberized undercoating, cabin filtration system, Bugflector II, 5W-30 Mobil 1, engine build 10/4/99
#17
01-17-2000 | 11:03 PM
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TNT:
Search the boards for many posts on the door crack. There is even a link on the f150online home page on the topic. Basically, on a majority of 97-99 f-150's (so far)eventually develop a horizontal metal fatigue crack in the sheet metal, located on the door, right as the sill rounds up to vertical near the back edge of the glass. It's thought to be caused by the repeated stress/flex caused by the power window motor.
Search the boards for many posts on the door crack. There is even a link on the f150online home page on the topic. Basically, on a majority of 97-99 f-150's (so far)eventually develop a horizontal metal fatigue crack in the sheet metal, located on the door, right as the sill rounds up to vertical near the back edge of the glass. It's thought to be caused by the repeated stress/flex caused by the power window motor.
#18
01-18-2000 | 02:59 PM
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Dustoff...
It just concerned me 'cause it's a sound that I never heard in the 98...no matter how cold it was. When I was up in the Rockies hunting over the past few years, it got down to -40 and still not a peep as far as this whining noise. Thus, I dunno!
...Deis
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It just concerned me 'cause it's a sound that I never heard in the 98...no matter how cold it was. When I was up in the Rockies hunting over the past few years, it got down to -40 and still not a peep as far as this whining noise. Thus, I dunno!
...Deis
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2000 F-150 Lariat Supercab Styleside
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·7700 Series Payload Package,·Black with silver two-tone, ·4x4, ·5.4L, · 3.55 LS axle, ·Class III towing package with heavy duty cooling package, ·Overhead console, ·Sliding rear window, ·Keyless entry, ·Captains chairs with graphite leather interior, ·Six stacker CD
Add-ons / Changes
·Goodyear RT/S 265 75R16 tires, ·Black and silver Lariat graphics, ·Armadillo spray-in bedliner, ·FORD logo rubber bedmat, ·Stainless steel grill cover, ·White face guage kit, ·Stainless steel nerf bars, ·Rubberized undercoating, ·FORD logo bug deflector and rain guards, ·Superwhite bulbs, ·Clear front corner and rear tail lights (with appropriate color bulbs), ·Carbon fibre dash kit, ·SnugTop Expo Topper
Performance Mods
·K&N air filter, ·Western Motorsports “Velocity Tube”, ·Bassani performance exhaust, ·Power Pulleys
#19
01-18-2000 | 09:11 PM
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Hey Dustoff,
I have only been running 87 octane in it.
About 2 weeks ago I switched from Citgo to Amoco. I get that whine at start up too. Must be the cold weather here in Wisconsin.
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2000 F-150 XLT 4x4
5.4L Engine (Built 8/19/99)
Off-Road Package
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K&N Air Filter
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I have only been running 87 octane in it.
About 2 weeks ago I switched from Citgo to Amoco. I get that whine at start up too. Must be the cold weather here in Wisconsin.
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2000 F-150 XLT 4x4
5.4L Engine (Built 8/19/99)
Off-Road Package
3.55 Limited Slip
K&N Air Filter
Eagle Cap
#20
01-18-2000 | 10:02 PM
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This rough idle thing sure is hard to pin down...
Another friend of mine has a 1997 4.6L F-150..and he has tried just about everything..and it still runs rough. He has also had it in the shop..but they could not fix the problem. He is going to try and move those infamous wire bundles next....
1stFord...where in cheese-land are you from? Near Madison, Eau Claire? I use to live in Hudson..on I-94 right on the Minnesota boarder. I miss it...but not so much the winters.
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2000 F-150 XLT, 4x2, 5.4L Supercab, Styleside, Black with silver two-tone, 3.55, class III towing package with heavy duty cooling package, 4 wheel disk ABS, overhead console, sliding rear window, keyless entry, dark graphite interior, in dash CD, Pendaliner bedliner, K&N air filter, rubberized undercoating, cabin filtration system, Bugflector II, 5W-30 Mobil 1, engine build 10/4/99
Another friend of mine has a 1997 4.6L F-150..and he has tried just about everything..and it still runs rough. He has also had it in the shop..but they could not fix the problem. He is going to try and move those infamous wire bundles next....
1stFord...where in cheese-land are you from? Near Madison, Eau Claire? I use to live in Hudson..on I-94 right on the Minnesota boarder. I miss it...but not so much the winters.
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2000 F-150 XLT, 4x2, 5.4L Supercab, Styleside, Black with silver two-tone, 3.55, class III towing package with heavy duty cooling package, 4 wheel disk ABS, overhead console, sliding rear window, keyless entry, dark graphite interior, in dash CD, Pendaliner bedliner, K&N air filter, rubberized undercoating, cabin filtration system, Bugflector II, 5W-30 Mobil 1, engine build 10/4/99
#21
01-19-2000 | 06:49 PM
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Hey Dustoff,
I hope I don't run into the same problem your buddy did. I plan on taking it in soon. I was going to wait for 5K but that is a little too far off. The idle isn't extremely rough but it is noticeable.
BTW I live near Appleton.
Later
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2000 F-150 XLT 4x4
5.4L Engine (Built 8/19/99)
Off-Road Package
3.55 Limited Slip
K&N Air Filter
Eagle Cap
I hope I don't run into the same problem your buddy did. I plan on taking it in soon. I was going to wait for 5K but that is a little too far off. The idle isn't extremely rough but it is noticeable.
BTW I live near Appleton.
Later
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2000 F-150 XLT 4x4
5.4L Engine (Built 8/19/99)
Off-Road Package
3.55 Limited Slip
K&N Air Filter
Eagle Cap
#22
08-18-2000 | 11:47 AM
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Well just to keep you all up to date. I just got my truck back from the dealer. It is possible that it may have the infamous pistonslap. It knocks when it's cold and it has done it since new( I'm at 8000kms).They have been in contact with Ford engineering and are waiting for a response.
It is loud when it is cold and fades out in about 5 min. It is loud enough that people turn and look when it's cold.
The engineers said they have a few reports of this in the 2000 5.4 but as of yet they don't know what it is.
With a stethisope(spelling?) sound seems to be loudest around the cat convert and in the exhaust but it sounds like it's in the engine they have replaced the cats on others with out the problem being fixed.
I guess we will have to wait and see.
[This message has been edited by RWL (edited 08-18-2000).]
It is loud when it is cold and fades out in about 5 min. It is loud enough that people turn and look when it's cold.
The engineers said they have a few reports of this in the 2000 5.4 but as of yet they don't know what it is.
With a stethisope(spelling?) sound seems to be loudest around the cat convert and in the exhaust but it sounds like it's in the engine they have replaced the cats on others with out the problem being fixed.
I guess we will have to wait and see.
[This message has been edited by RWL (edited 08-18-2000).]
#23
08-18-2000 | 02:14 PM
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RWL-
Please keep us updated.
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Please keep us updated.
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2000 4x2 F150 XLT Reg. Cab LWB- 5.4L, Tow Pkg, 3.55LS, CD player,Remote Keyless Entry, Sliding back glass, Special Appearance Pkg., tinted windows, Line-X bedliner, K&N air filter, SuperChip, airbox mods, 285/60R16 Goodyear Eagle GT IIs and Prime #155 wheels.
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#24
08-18-2000 | 02:17 PM
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Got my truck in April 2000, 4500 miles currently. Truck is absolutely perfect..no engine trouble yet!!...good luck. Welcome to the club..
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#25
08-18-2000 | 10:05 PM
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I spoke to the service manager at my dealership about any piston slap problems in the 2000 5.4s a few weeks ago when I picked up my truck. They have not replaced a single 2000 engine (with the piston slap problem)...however..they were very busy dropping in replacement engines in 97 - early 99 models about a year ago.
So far so good with this 2000 LEV 5.4L... 779 miles.
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So far so good with this 2000 LEV 5.4L... 779 miles.
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2000 F-150 XLT, 4x2, 5.4L Supercab, LEV, Superchip, Styleside, Black with silver two-tone, 3.55 rear, class III towing package with heavy duty cooling package, Heavy duty shocks, 4 wheel disk ABS, overhead console, sliding rear window, keyless entry, dark graphite interior, in dash CD, factory leather wrapped steering wheel, FORD bedliner, K&N air filter, mar-hyde rubberized undercoating, Modine climate filtration system, Bugflector II, Mobil 1 oil and filter, Build date 7/00
#26
08-19-2000 | 01:47 AM
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#28
08-19-2000 | 09:01 PM
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10K & NO Engine Problems yet
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American Racing 16 X 8 Baja's, Snug Top or Tonneau[/list=a]
#29
08-24-2000 | 12:42 AM
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Hey everyone.... just thought i would through in alittle ... i have a 97 f-150 4x4 lariat....with the 5.4 ... it now has 120,000 miles on it ... and as far as the motor goes.... not a lick of problems...
I have had to change the trans... that was a bite in the you know what $1300...
it has a 4" lift with 33" mudkings... K&M stage 11 filter ... hyper chip.. cat back duals... headers,
And to top it off ... i race it just about every week end... Sand Drags....
the chevy guys really dont like me !!
love my truck....
I have had to change the trans... that was a bite in the you know what $1300...
it has a 4" lift with 33" mudkings... K&M stage 11 filter ... hyper chip.. cat back duals... headers,
And to top it off ... i race it just about every week end... Sand Drags....
the chevy guys really dont like me !!
love my truck....
#30
08-24-2000 | 06:45 PM
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Nick (as in Saint Nicholas -- as in my Christmas Present to me) has been with me for 268 days without a slap or crack. I had the inner fender mudflaps installed (warranty - tsb) today; and had a weeping power-steering hose (same thing on my '97) fixed a couple of weeks ago.
12K on the clock -- and 10.2 MPG towing a 20' Wilderness for 150 miles last weekend was better than the 7.8 MPG with the same trailer with the '97.
Color me happy!
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12K on the clock -- and 10.2 MPG towing a 20' Wilderness for 150 miles last weekend was better than the 7.8 MPG with the same trailer with the '97.
Color me happy!
<A HREF="http://www.net-link.net/~n8jg/y2k/mvc-007s.jpg" TARGET=_blank> [img]//www.net-link.net/~n8jg/y2k/mvc-007s_small.jpg[/img] </A>
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Toreador Red, Keyless XLT SC SB 5.4L E4x4 4wDisc/ABS, 3.73LS, Skid, HD 7700# Towing, LT-245's on Chrome, Tube-Steps, Captain's, 6CD, Tonneau, named: "Nick"