REAL DYNO #'S FROM AFTERMARKET SUPERCHARGERS?

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Old 11-23-2000 | 09:12 PM
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Neal, this isn't the exact answer you may be looking for because I run a Vortech S-Trim Supercharger on my truck,with full Bassani exhaust,10 lbs. of boost, BBK throttle body,MSD dis 4 ign.,Pro- M 80 mm mass air,and a custom airbox.It makes 287 @ the wheels,this is also on a 98' 4.6 so the numbers would be a lot better on your truck,and the cost from Steeda was around $3,400.00 U.S.

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Old 11-23-2000 | 09:29 PM
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Flamedf150-that is the highest rear wheel hp I have seen on the board for a blown 4.6L. I am hoping for 270 rear wheel on my next dyno. Could you show your profile so I could see your mods and maybe get some new ideas. I am only running 5 lbs of boost. How is your 4.6L holding up with that much boost? I am thinking of going for a smaller pulley down the road which will help a lot. I will be happy (are we ever happy?) with 8 lbs.

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Old 11-23-2000 | 09:49 PM
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Flats-Man,As soon as i get a profile ready i will post it up , But my typing skills are terrible and there is a lot to type.But I can tell you that there is no guarantee that it will maintain that boost forever but i haven't had a problem for the past two months.(The amount of time I've been running that pulley) and I am by no means easy on the engine.I think the biggest asset to running that kind of boost is fuel monitoring ,I run exhaust temp, and fuel pressure guages, with a Cartech adj. fuel pressure regulator to make sure that the fuel delivery is perfect, but with that kind of pressure there are certainly no doubts that the strain on the motor is heavy.

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Old 11-23-2000 | 09:57 PM
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HI!... Thanks for all the replys guys! Does anyone have DYNO #'s for a KENNE BELL "BLOWZILLA" on a "PI" 5.4 engine? Some of you guys are making some REALLY good power with your SUPERCHARGERS! I'm making about 332H.P at the FLYWHEEL and about 267 H.P at the rear wheels. That's going with the proven 65H.P loss through a REGULAR F-150's drivetrain that I got from MIKE T's info from SUPERCHIP's "EDDY" current DYNO, which is 10 times more accurate than "DYNO JET" dyno"s. I want to see if I can hit 350H.P at the FLYWHEEL before installing a supercharger. My goal is 360H.P at the rear wheels!LOL!

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'99' F-150 XLT SPORT, oxford white, reg cab shortbox stepside,5.4, auto, 4.10L.S, captain's chairs, bedliner, GTS carbon fiber headlight covers, ***** CEPECK clear halogen driving lights, GTS slotted tailight covers (painted oxford white), fiberglass smooth wiper cowl (painted OXFORD WHITE), FORD locking lug nuts, tinted windows,true duel exhaust with 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipes and FLOWMASTER 3 chamber mufflers with 3' tailpipes exiting before the rear wheel like the LIGHTNING, HELLWIG rear stabalizer bar, 3 AUTOMETER guage pods, filled with tranny temp, engine temp, and oil preasure AUTOMETER "PHANTOM" guages,custom fabricated air intake trac and huge K/N filter, TPS mod, BELLTECH 2-inch rear drop, custom programed SUPERCHIP, BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit (on stage 5 setting)BYPASS CLUTCH CONTROL VALVE/PREASURE REGULATOR VALVE, ASP POWER PULLEYS, custom tig welded and ported JBA "JET BLACK coated headers, twin DERALE 16 INCH ELECTRIC FANS, PERMA COOL 14"/10" tranny cooler with 10" electric fan, custom ported (STOCK) throttle body, custom digital air intake temp sensor, custom ported TB intake elbow, relocated ATS.


FUTURE MODS : FORD SVT 24LB INJECTORS, CUSTOM SUPERCHIP FLIP-CHIP, BBK 75MM THROTTLE BODY, 80MM PRO-M MASS AIR METER, AADI F1 RAM AIR HOOD WITH CUSTOM FABRICATED RAM AIR SET-UP, CAL-TRAC TRACTION BARS, EXTRUDE HONED INTAKE MANIFOLD, SHM CUSTOM FUEL RAILS, SHM "RACE WATER PUMP, 90/10 FRONT CE SHOCKS, 70/30 REAR CE SHOCKS, BELL TECH 2/4 DROP, EXPEDITION CENTER CONSOLE, HARLEY DAVISON F-150, LOWER FRONT VALANCE (painted oxford white) and a KENNE BELL BLOWZILLA SUPERCHARGER.

ESTIMATED H.P TO DATE : 330H.P / 425ft/lbs of torque.

CURRENT PERFORMANCE : 1/4 MILE - 14.53E.T * MPH - 93.00 * 0-60MPH - 5.8 * 1/8 MILE - 9.2 * 60 FT - 2.0

OTHER TOYS : "83" PRO STREET FORD RANGER : 351-w stroked to 408c.i 625H.P (natural), 875H.P with 250H.P "BIG SHOT" N.O.S kit, tubbed (crome moly tubing), 12 point chrome moly roll cage, 4-link with coil overs, MUSTANG II front suspension, c-4 tranny (race prepped), 4000rpm stall converter(8 INCH), 3" chrome moly driveshaft,AUTOMETER guages, 15.50 MICKEY THOMPSON rear tires, 4" M/T front tires, CENTERLINE CON-VO PRO rims, fiberglass hood - bumper - prostock hood scoop, wishbone trac-link, two chrome moly driveshaft loops, 16 gallon RCI fuel cell,etc


 
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Old 11-23-2000 | 10:14 PM
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Here are some of my mods...and some pics if you'd like to check it out.

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Major Mods: Firestone Airbags; 18x8" & 20x9.5" Billet Specialties Wheels; Custom Copper Flames (exterior, interior & in the engine compartment); Vortech S-Trim (10 psi); Pro-M 80mm Mass Air; BBK 75mm Throttle Body; Custom Air Intake; MSD DIS4 Ign.; MSD Wires; Cartech Adj. Fuel Regulator; Full Bassani Exhaust; T-Rex Inline Fuel Pump; 6 Time Fun Ford Winner

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Old 11-24-2000 | 07:16 AM
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Very Nice Truck! Have you run the 1/4 in it yet? The steering wheel is a very nice touch.
 
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Old 11-24-2000 | 07:58 AM
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Okay, no one has asked as of yet, maybe due to fear, hehe, but I'm curious about your setup, Jason, with your apparent "twin" turbocharged application. Tell me more. What type of results do you have? Pics?

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** Custom Fab. 4" Cold Air Enclosure
** Pro-M 80mm MAF w/Filter & SC cal.(Enclosed)
** WMS Velocity Tube
** 75mm Edelbrock/BBK TB
** Hand Ported TB/Intake Elbow
** Magnason/Eaton M90 Supercharger
** Autometer Boost Gauge w/ A-pillar mounted pod
** Cust. Prog. Superchip
** JBA Jet Black Ceramic Coated Headers
** Stage 8 Locking Header Bolts
** "PROWLER" Tran's Oil Cooler w/ Spal Cooling Fan
** Gibson Sweptside Catback
** IPD Rear Anti-Swaybar
** Bilstein Shocks
** Manik Grill/Brush and Rear Taillight Guards
** PIAA 520 Foglights
** Clear Corner Lens
** Stull Billet Grill and Bumper Insert
** Ford Molded Mud Guards
** Ford Hood Guard
** "EXPEDITION" Receiver Cover

COMING UP NEXT, IN THE FUTURE....

** 4.30 gears
** Brembo Crossed Drilled Brake Kit
** 18" Wheels, due to Brembos
** F1 Cobra style hood

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Old 11-24-2000 | 08:14 AM
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Hi guys, Here are the numbers for my 99 5.4 EC Roush F-150:
Mods:
Vortech Supercharger making 9psi
30lb Ford Motorsport injectors
PRO M mass air meter
4:10LS
Horspower at the rear wheels with just the supercharger - 297.6 (At this time it was only making 7psi)

Horspower at the rear wheels with supercharger and other mods - 321.4

Horspower when I get my chip back from Mike-?

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Old 11-24-2000 | 10:31 PM
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Old 11-25-2000 | 02:16 PM
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HI!... LUTWILLER : That's some impressive H.P #'s!!! Have you had a chance to run it down the 1/4 mile yet? If so, then what times have you run?

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NEAL " THE H.P FREAK"
'99' F-150 XLT SPORT, oxford white, reg cab shortbox stepside,5.4, auto, 4.10L.S, captain's chairs, bedliner, GTS carbon fiber headlight covers, ***** CEPECK clear halogen driving lights, GTS slotted tailight covers (painted oxford white), fiberglass smooth wiper cowl (painted OXFORD WHITE), FORD locking lug nuts, tinted windows,true duel exhaust with 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipes and FLOWMASTER 3 chamber mufflers with 3' tailpipes exiting before the rear wheel like the LIGHTNING, HELLWIG rear stabalizer bar, 3 AUTOMETER guage pods, filled with tranny temp, engine temp, and oil preasure AUTOMETER "PHANTOM" guages,custom fabricated air intake trac and huge K/N filter, TPS mod, BELLTECH 2-inch rear drop, custom programed SUPERCHIP, BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit (on stage 5 setting)BYPASS CLUTCH CONTROL VALVE/PREASURE REGULATOR VALVE, ASP POWER PULLEYS, custom tig welded and ported JBA "JET BLACK coated headers, twin DERALE 16 INCH ELECTRIC FANS, PERMA COOL 14"/10" tranny cooler with 10" electric fan, custom ported (STOCK) throttle body, custom digital air intake temp sensor, custom ported TB intake elbow, relocated ATS.


FUTURE MODS : FORD SVT 24LB INJECTORS, CUSTOM SUPERCHIP FLIP-CHIP, BBK 75MM THROTTLE BODY, 80MM PRO-M MASS AIR METER, AADI F1 RAM AIR HOOD WITH CUSTOM FABRICATED RAM AIR SET-UP, CAL-TRAC TRACTION BARS, EXTRUDE HONED INTAKE MANIFOLD, SHM CUSTOM FUEL RAILS, SHM "RACE WATER PUMP, 90/10 FRONT CE SHOCKS, 70/30 REAR CE SHOCKS, BELL TECH 2/4 DROP, EXPEDITION CENTER CONSOLE, HARLEY DAVISON F-150, LOWER FRONT VALANCE (painted oxford white) and a KENNE BELL BLOWZILLA SUPERCHARGER.

ESTIMATED H.P TO DATE : 330H.P / 425ft/lbs of torque.

CURRENT PERFORMANCE : 1/4 MILE - 14.53E.T * MPH - 93.00 * 0-60MPH - 5.8 * 1/8 MILE - 9.2 * 60 FT - 2.0

OTHER TOYS : "83" PRO STREET FORD RANGER : 351-w stroked to 408c.i 625H.P (natural), 875H.P with 250H.P "BIG SHOT" N.O.S kit, tubbed (crome moly tubing), 12 point chrome moly roll cage, 4-link with coil overs, MUSTANG II front suspension, c-4 tranny (race prepped), 4000rpm stall converter(8 INCH), 3" chrome moly driveshaft,AUTOMETER guages, 15.50 MICKEY THOMPSON rear tires, 4" M/T front tires, CENTERLINE CON-VO PRO rims, fiberglass hood - bumper - prostock hood scoop, wishbone trac-link, two chrome moly driveshaft loops, 16 gallon RCI fuel cell,etc


 
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Old 11-25-2000 | 06:08 PM
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Not yet Neal. As soon as I get my chip back from Mike, I will try and make a run. The problem is this: the 4:10 gears made my speedo fast by 15mph. Therfore, when the speedo says 105, I am actually running 90. My high speed limiter is set at 105. With this being the case, I would have never been able to complete the quarter; the truck would have shut down before I finished! The Superchip will correct the problem. This is probably familiar territory for you since you also have the 4:10's.?

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Old 11-25-2000 | 07:42 PM
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HI!... LUTWILLER : Yes! I know all about the 4.10 gear problem. I was one of the very 1st, if not the 1st one that installed 4.10 gears in a F-150's STERLING 9.75 rear end. My truck kept hitting the rev limiter between the 1st to 2nd gear upshift. Mike T. fixed the problem for me by raising the rev limiter 100RPM and lowering the shift point by 100RPM. This cured the problem. Now I just received my new SUPERCHIP "FLIPCHIP" that I had custom built from MIKE T. It should knock off another 3 tenths off my 1/4 mile times.

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'99' F-150 XLT SPORT, oxford white, reg cab shortbox stepside,5.4, auto, 4.10L.S, captain's chairs, bedliner, GTS carbon fiber headlight covers, ***** CEPECK clear halogen driving lights, GTS slotted tailight covers (painted oxford white), fiberglass smooth wiper cowl (painted OXFORD WHITE), FORD locking lug nuts, tinted windows,true duel exhaust with 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipes and FLOWMASTER 3 chamber mufflers with 3' tailpipes exiting before the rear wheel like the LIGHTNING, HELLWIG rear stabalizer bar, 3 AUTOMETER guage pods, filled with tranny temp, engine temp, and oil preasure AUTOMETER "PHANTOM" guages,custom fabricated air intake trac and huge K/N filter, TPS mod, BELLTECH 2-inch rear drop, custom programed SUPERCHIP, BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit (on stage 5 setting)BYPASS CLUTCH CONTROL VALVE/PREASURE REGULATOR VALVE, ASP POWER PULLEYS, custom tig welded and ported JBA "JET BLACK coated headers, twin DERALE 16 INCH ELECTRIC FANS, PERMA COOL 14"/10" tranny cooler with 10" electric fan, custom ported (STOCK) throttle body, custom digital air intake temp sensor, custom ported TB intake elbow, relocated ATS.


FUTURE MODS : FORD SVT 24LB INJECTORS, CUSTOM SUPERCHIP FLIP-CHIP, BBK 75MM THROTTLE BODY, 80MM PRO-M MASS AIR METER, AADI F1 RAM AIR HOOD WITH CUSTOM FABRICATED RAM AIR SET-UP, CAL-TRAC TRACTION BARS, EXTRUDE HONED INTAKE MANIFOLD, SHM CUSTOM FUEL RAILS, SHM "RACE WATER PUMP, 90/10 FRONT CE SHOCKS, 70/30 REAR CE SHOCKS, BELL TECH 2/4 DROP, EXPEDITION CENTER CONSOLE, HARLEY DAVISON F-150, LOWER FRONT VALANCE (painted oxford white) and a KENNE BELL BLOWZILLA SUPERCHARGER.

ESTIMATED H.P TO DATE : 330H.P / 425ft/lbs of torque.

CURRENT PERFORMANCE : 1/4 MILE - 14.53E.T * MPH - 93.00 * 0-60MPH - 5.8 * 1/8 MILE - 9.2 * 60 FT - 2.0

OTHER TOYS : "83" PRO STREET FORD RANGER : 351-w stroked to 408c.i 625H.P (natural), 875H.P with 250H.P "BIG SHOT" N.O.S kit, tubbed (crome moly tubing), 12 point chrome moly roll cage, 4-link with coil overs, MUSTANG II front suspension, c-4 tranny (race prepped), 4000rpm stall converter(8 INCH), 3" chrome moly driveshaft,AUTOMETER guages, 15.50 MICKEY THOMPSON rear tires, 4" M/T front tires, CENTERLINE CON-VO PRO rims, fiberglass hood - bumper - prostock hood scoop, wishbone trac-link, two chrome moly driveshaft loops, 16 gallon RCI fuel cell,etc


 
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Old 11-26-2000 | 08:42 AM
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Neal, Who did you get your shift kit from and how much did it cost?

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Old 11-26-2000 | 03:17 PM
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HI!... LUTWILLER : I got my shift kit from BAUMANN ENGINEERING. It cost me about $325.00 (CAN). I installed it myself in about 2 hours. I've got mine set on stage 5. Stage 6 is total strip only. When I installed the shift kit, I also put in RELINE synthetic trans fluid. If you decide to do this make sure you drain the converter and tranny cooler.

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NEAL " THE H.P FREAK"
'99' F-150 XLT SPORT, oxford white, reg cab shortbox stepside,5.4, auto, 4.10L.S, captain's chairs, bedliner, GTS carbon fiber headlight covers, ***** CEPECK clear halogen driving lights, GTS slotted tailight covers (painted oxford white), fiberglass smooth wiper cowl (painted OXFORD WHITE), FORD locking lug nuts, tinted windows,true duel exhaust with 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipes and FLOWMASTER 3 chamber mufflers with 3' tailpipes exiting before the rear wheel like the LIGHTNING, HELLWIG rear stabalizer bar, 3 AUTOMETER guage pods, filled with tranny temp, engine temp, and oil preasure AUTOMETER "PHANTOM" guages,custom fabricated air intake trac and huge K/N filter, TPS mod, BELLTECH 2-inch rear drop, custom programed SUPERCHIP, BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit (on stage 5 setting)BYPASS CLUTCH CONTROL VALVE/PREASURE REGULATOR VALVE, ASP POWER PULLEYS, custom tig welded and ported JBA "JET BLACK coated headers, twin DERALE 16 INCH ELECTRIC FANS, PERMA COOL 14"/10" tranny cooler with 10" electric fan, custom ported (STOCK) throttle body, custom digital air intake temp sensor, custom ported TB intake elbow, relocated ATS.


FUTURE MODS : FORD SVT 24LB INJECTORS, CUSTOM SUPERCHIP FLIP-CHIP, BBK 75MM THROTTLE BODY, 80MM PRO-M MASS AIR METER, AADI F1 RAM AIR HOOD WITH CUSTOM FABRICATED RAM AIR SET-UP, CAL-TRAC TRACTION BARS, EXTRUDE HONED INTAKE MANIFOLD, SHM CUSTOM FUEL RAILS, SHM "RACE WATER PUMP, 90/10 FRONT CE SHOCKS, 70/30 REAR CE SHOCKS, BELL TECH 2/4 DROP, EXPEDITION CENTER CONSOLE, HARLEY DAVISON F-150, LOWER FRONT VALANCE (painted oxford white) and a KENNE BELL BLOWZILLA SUPERCHARGER.

ESTIMATED H.P TO DATE : 330H.P / 425ft/lbs of torque.

CURRENT PERFORMANCE : 1/4 MILE - 14.53E.T * MPH - 93.00 * 0-60MPH - 5.8 * 1/8 MILE - 9.2 * 60 FT - 2.0

OTHER TOYS : "83" PRO STREET FORD RANGER : 351-w stroked to 408c.i 625H.P (natural), 875H.P with 250H.P "BIG SHOT" N.O.S kit, tubbed (crome moly tubing), 12 point chrome moly roll cage, 4-link with coil overs, MUSTANG II front suspension, c-4 tranny (race prepped), 4000rpm stall converter(8 INCH), 3" chrome moly driveshaft,AUTOMETER guages, 15.50 MICKEY THOMPSON rear tires, 4" M/T front tires, CENTERLINE CON-VO PRO rims, fiberglass hood - bumper - prostock hood scoop, wishbone trac-link, two chrome moly driveshaft loops, 16 gallon RCI fuel cell,etc


 
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Old 12-01-2000 | 05:47 PM
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Here's my .02...

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