5W20, knocking, warranty
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5W20, knocking, warranty
This may have been beaten to death as a subject but . . . just spoke with the service manager at my Ford dealer. he said that i MUST use 5W20 or the engine will knock, and that they will not honor the warranty with any other oil . .
do you guys buy into either premise? knocking, warranty ?
do you guys buy into either premise? knocking, warranty ?
#2
I would imagine that they could try to viod your warrenty,
What is wrong with running the 5w20, seems to me that I would want the best mpgs possible!
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What is wrong with running the 5w20, seems to me that I would want the best mpgs possible!
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#3
How would 5W-20 prevent knock? I think this service guy is full of crap. Ford is recommending 5W-20 to improve mpg's to a miniscule degree and score browny points with the EPA. Remember that Ford would not recommend 5W-20 in some engines because they found there was too much wear. I would stick with 5W-30 or 0W30.
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acadianbob
I have an 01 model and the 5w 20 oil is recommended. I changed to Amsoil 0w 30 at 2500 miles and never had a problem with any knocks, engine noise, etc.... I am getting 18 mpg with a combination of highway, country and city driving. I don't think that the 0w 20 could improve this. As far as warranty, the service manager at the dealership where I bought the truck said that he uses 5w 30 on most of his oil changes.
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2001 F-150 XLT 4X4 Supercab 4.6L Auto Transmission
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I have an 01 model and the 5w 20 oil is recommended. I changed to Amsoil 0w 30 at 2500 miles and never had a problem with any knocks, engine noise, etc.... I am getting 18 mpg with a combination of highway, country and city driving. I don't think that the 0w 20 could improve this. As far as warranty, the service manager at the dealership where I bought the truck said that he uses 5w 30 on most of his oil changes.
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#5
I have been wrestling with this for weeks now. I want the best for my new $33k truck. I want to use Mobil 1 like in my fiance's 2000 Taurus (5W-30), but like I posted a few days ago, Mobil has "no plans to make it anytime soon". I called a different dealer today, the service manager there said there would be no problems running it and that he recommended going with synthetic 30. Called my dealer and talked to service manager. He said that his reply is to use what manual calls for. BUT, if it was him he would use 5W-10 Mobil 1. His warranty source that he called said that technically Ford COULD void warranty if there was a engine failure. So, who knows what to believe. I wish MOBIL would just solve the problem and make full synthetic 5W-20.
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#8
You do need to run the specified oil during warranty because "Ford said so". Slight variations do not cause harm or knock. Play it safe and do it after the warranty. If you're unsure of what grades do what, stay with what is recommended.
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2000 F-150 XL, RC, LB, 5.4L, 4R70W, 3.55LS,
Class III tow, Payload #3, & Convenience pkgs.,
4-wheel disc/ABS, Chestnut/Parchment 40/60,
Ford bedliner w/Paintsaver & gas/wheel/spare locks,
K&N F.I.P.K. w/Outwears pre-filter, Superchip,
Dynomax ultra-flow welded 3" cat-back w/ 3" Y-pipe,
Hellwig front & rear anti-sway bars, Rancho RS 9000s,
Mobil 1, K&N oil filter.
#10
It is crazy that Ford recommends 5w20 "dinosaur oil" versus a full synthetic, like Mobil 5w30! Don't think that mineral 5w20 versus synthetic 5w30 is better! It is a proven fact, backed up by a ton of research and results, the a synthetic oil will be much better for your engine.
Ford made absolutely no changes to the engines in the 2001 models that they "must" have 5w20 versus 5w30. Ford recommended 5w20 only to keep the tree huggers happy. Save yourselves a lot of trouble down the road by using a full synthetic. After 100,000 miles, your engine will thank you.
As for warranty concerns, that is absolute bunk, they must honour it if you have a problem. If you are using oil that is approved and meets all the criteria, you are ok. (Just check the back of the bottle to see if it is approved. Mobil oil definately is). Ford must prove that using the non-appoved 5w30 Mobil synthetic (which is worlds better for your engine) actually caused the problem.
Ford made absolutely no changes to the engines in the 2001 models that they "must" have 5w20 versus 5w30. Ford recommended 5w20 only to keep the tree huggers happy. Save yourselves a lot of trouble down the road by using a full synthetic. After 100,000 miles, your engine will thank you.
As for warranty concerns, that is absolute bunk, they must honour it if you have a problem. If you are using oil that is approved and meets all the criteria, you are ok. (Just check the back of the bottle to see if it is approved. Mobil oil definately is). Ford must prove that using the non-appoved 5w30 Mobil synthetic (which is worlds better for your engine) actually caused the problem.
#11
I switched to Mobil 1 5W-30 at the 6K change. I'm at 7.5K now and everything's fine. She's running real smooth and the performance seems to be improving, probably just breaking in good now!
BTW.. My dealer put in Motorcraft 5W-30 for my 3K free oil change, and told me it didn't matter!
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BTW.. My dealer put in Motorcraft 5W-30 for my 3K free oil change, and told me it didn't matter!
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Ford made absolutely no changes to the engines in the 2001 models that they "must" have 5w20 versus 5w30. Ford recommended 5w20 only to keep the tree huggers happy.
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Ford made absolutely no changes to the engines in the 2001 models that they "must" have 5w20 versus 5w30. Ford recommended 5w20 only to keep the tree huggers happy.
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#15
Congratuations to all of you. By reading this message board religiously, I'm sure most of you could go to your Ford dealers and do 10x the job the "techs" could. I have heard absultely assinine comments and quotes from the "techs", not only from Ford, but from some other shops. And they're professional? They are used to dealing with the general public who can't tell a piston from a ring and pinion, and thus buy all their hot air, particularily regarding warranties.
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