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Old 11-11-2006, 08:33 PM
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help with 22's please

hey guys i have an 02' scab 2wd with the 4.6, originally i wanted to lift it, but have decided it doesnt have enough power(dont want to regear it), so i decided i would rather put rims on it, my question is this i think i am going to run 22's on 305/40/22 toyo proxes st i am going to take my leveling kit out and i want to drop the back to level it out, but i still need it to be able to hold a couple of dirtbikes or tow a decent amount, what is the best way to do it? and what offset do the rims need to be? thanks,
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Old 11-11-2006, 08:59 PM
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If you want to lower and still maintain some payload its not that hard. You just cant use convinient shackles, b.c they dont support payload well.

you could find leaf springs from a 99-02 lightning they should lower you about 1-1.5"

Or you can replace your leaf hanger, with a hanger drop, they come in 2" or 3" Mines a 3 or 2" adjustable hanger from eibach. They are a pain to install, but its nice to know i can still carry a pretty decent load if needed.
And ive moved furniture 3 or 4 different times helpin different people. And even towed a friends car on a car dolly from uhaul (the single axle kind)
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Old 11-11-2006, 10:36 PM
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That's the first I've ever heard of lowering shackles affecting you r payload capacity.
 
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Old 11-11-2006, 11:19 PM
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Yah b.c with lowering shackles, they are longer, and get displaced (pushed out and to the rear) so they dont allow the leafs to flex like they were designed, so the leafs bottom out much faster then then should at factory ride height.

Make sense?
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yep less spring travel means less load
 
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Old 11-12-2006, 02:30 AM
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wow wandell, thats twice ive had to correct you in the last month. You doin alright?

Just messin with ya man.
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Watch out Wandell looks like hes looking to replace you
 

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Originally Posted by mxr181
what offset do the rims need to be? thanks,
Brian

4.5 to 4.75in is a good common backspacing thats a pretty common setup for after market rims for are year trucks
 

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Nobody's perfect!
lol but i do have to give you props, for having patience to always answer all these tire sizing questions, especially the repetitive "can i fit 35's with just a spacer?" etc
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what is the difference? the hangers push the front of the leafs up into the body and the shackles do the same to the back the leafs? i would think its bassically the same. sorry dont mean to argue but the shackles just seam a lot easier, but if hangers handle weight better i will def go with them instead. just curious and by the way thanks for the help, and i am starting to think about 285/35R22s instead of 305/40s
 
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what is the difference? the hangers push the front of the leafs up into the body and the shackles do the same to the back the leafs? i would think its bassically the same. sorry dont mean to argue but the shackles just seam a lot easier, but if hangers handle weight better i will def go with them instead. just curious and by the way thanks for the help, and i am starting to think about 285/35R22s instead of 305/40s
the hangers are a solid mount, meaning there is no displacement, or movement under load, or during spring compression. Im not going to lie, hangers are a giant PITA to install. Shackles are much cheaper, and easier to install, but you loose ride quality, and load ability with shackles, more then you do with hangers.
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:07 AM
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do you have to remove the gas tank?
 
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:41 AM
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I didnt on my 03. We did remove the bed for better clearance/ room to work

I have heard people that did it on the 04+ that they had to lower the gas tank some to be able to put the new bolt in the frame.





And sorry to Hijack the thread about rim sizing....
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Old 11-13-2006, 10:47 PM
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pat, dont worry about hijacking it at all that was one of my main questions anyway and i really do appreciate the help, anyway about how long did it take to install your hangers, and how much of it was spent removing the bed?
 



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