Originally Posted by Zaairman

I skipped reading everything in this thread besides the original post.
I thought my 1999 F-150 had spongy brakes too. I tried everything. New pads, new fluid, adjusting the parking brake, etc. But, no matter how spongy I thought it was, it always stopped great, even in panic situations. If the truck is still stopping great, doesn't need new brakes or other parts, then it is probably normal. I now have an F-250 with a firm brake pedal that won't stop for *****.

Originally Posted by adeese660

Don't take this the wrong way,I am not trying to bash you,but the engineering thing,man,you guys really need to got out in the real world where the vehicles are being repaired.When the brake fluid get moisture in it,and it will,it can change colors because of rust ect...And,when the water is in the brake fluid,it will make the boiling point lower,making your brakes heat up faster,causing brake fade.So the answer to that is,yes,you do need to flush the fluid sometimes.Once you get moisture in the system,not only will you get brake fade,you will get pre-mature failure of parts.It is just like coffee,the darker it gets,the worse it is.The brake fluid can absorb moisture anywhere,when you open a bottle of it,it starts collecting moisture.Let it sit on your shelf open long enough,and it will change colors.Yes,heat will make a change in colors too.Also you are talking manufactures normal use,nobody in the world drives the way the manufacture says to drive.Everybody drives differant,not under your engineering conditions at your work place.Like I said.don't take this the wrong way,if it was not for you guys we would not have much,but,you guys really need to get out in the work places too,and see how the things you creat really work under everyday situations,not lab situations.I have been working on brakes systems since 1981,I have seen it many times.

Originally Posted by Roodoo2

Here you all go, read it again, excellente'

Originally Posted by ELVATO

So, with all this talk about moisture in brake fluid and such, would it be a better idea to get a brake job during the winter, when it nice and dry?

Originally Posted by adeese660

Don't take this the wrong way,I am not trying to bash you,but the engineering thing,man,you guys really need to got out in the real world where the vehicles are being repaired.When the brake fluid get moisture in it,and it will,it can change colors because of rust ect...And,when the water is in the brake fluid,it will make the boiling point lower,making your brakes heat up faster,causing brake fade.So the answer to that is,yes,you do need to flush the fluid sometimes.Once you get moisture in the system,not only will you get brake fade,you will get pre-mature failure of parts.It is just like coffee,the darker it gets,the worse it is.The brake fluid can absorb moisture anywhere,when you open a bottle of it,it starts collecting moisture.Let it sit on your shelf open long enough,and it will change colors.Yes,heat will make a change in colors too.Also you are talking manufactures normal use,nobody in the world drives the way the manufacture says to drive.Everybody drives differant,not under your engineering conditions at your work place.Like I said.don't take this the wrong way,if it was not for you guys we would not have much,but,you guys really need to get out in the work places too,and see how the things you creat really work under everyday situations,not lab situations.I have been working on brakes systems since 1981,I have seen it many times.