Just saw you already oredered. That's what i get for skip reading! But anyway I think you will be happy.

 

Thanks, did you turn your rotors before you put on the pads?

 

No, I debated it and probably should have but my rotors didn't seem to be in bad shape. Main reason I changed pads was dust issue. I pull a travel trailer also so I thought I would try out ceramics. I really am happy with them so far.

 

Thank you for your reply, mabe I will hold off on rotors then and see what happens. My problem right now is the dust also but I have kevelar pads and they work great but the dust is worse then stock right now. You guys helped out a lot. Thanks.

 

Thanks to Bluejay and Ab46501 I spent a good 8 hrs this past Saturday cleaning up all 4 corners painting the calibers and installing the Thermo Quiet Ceramic pad. I didnt replace the rotors, just scuffed them up. I didnt think the ceramics pads would stop as good as the kevelar pads and was I wrong. They stop better and they dont make a sound. Unfortunitly its been raining since Saturday and it suppose to rain for the next 5 days so I cant comment on the dusting. So far we only drove about 150 miles but so far so good. Any one on the fence about these pads should definitly go for it. Thanks again to everyone for suggesting them.

 

I have TQ Ceramics on front mostly becuase the EBC Greenstuff 6000s I ordered came in for a 97-03 & '04 Heritage instead of '04 - '08 body style... The pads are quite different. (The rears that Summit sent were right).

The TQs were a little scary with braking power at first... I don't know how to explain it. Just seemed like they didn't stop quite right. For 1 day of heavy stop & go traffic. Never repeated that though... I wouldn't do them again. I think I would go all the way around with the EBCs next change.

 

Really, right out of my driveway they worked great. Stopping was improved. I cant complain at all.

 

Glad you got them on and they are working well for ya. I got the paint to do my calipers too but haven't found the time, yikes 8 hrs, to get to them yet. But thats mainly because I just finished working on my exhaust and now a got a new grille coming in so my list of things to do to the truck isn't getting any shorter! Fun fun!

 

Thanks, 8 hrs was in the rain and I was also cleaning brake dust off the wheels that were caked on for weeks. Also with the rain the paint wasnt drying at all. I was also cleaning under the truck and having a few beers waiting for paint to dry.

 

Nothing wrong with having a good beverage handy! I got new wheels and thats what prompted me to change the pads. After just a week or two on the truck with the old pads the backside of the wheels was really beginning to build dust and turn dark brown. Being that they are 20" it was much more noticable than the 17's I had prior. I cleaned them off. Since I changed pads it's been a month or more now. I haven't wiped down the backside (it's not shiney clean but is still silver) of the wheel again and it shows no brown dust buildup to speak of.

 

I don't know how to explain it. I didn't do the labor though... It was sort of like all the braking power was in the rear with the EBCs... for about a day. Scary as, well you know ... Especially in Houston's stop and go traffic...

And I am not saying my experience is typical. I have read a LOT of good reviews on these, and I know a couple of guys running these, including a friend who has them all the way around on his wife's Expy...

 

I wonder if having a pad made of a softer material on the rears might have caused that. It may have been fine if you had pads made of the same material on front and back. Just a thought.

 

Is everything better now? I was really having a hard time deciding on ceramic or semi matallic. I feel I definitly made the right decision. Now as soon as the rain stops I need to really polish my wheels.

 

Been fine for 50K miles. Getting time to swap them out again and throw some rotors on the truck...

 

Ceramics: They are good but do not develop any more friction than good quality OEM linings

Performance Friction & Hawk: Good braking, increased friction but very dirty compared to OEM with the exception of VelveTouch- a line that Hawk just bought from Wellman Industries. VelveTouch lining has been used for many decades and was the original lining used in all Shelby Mustangs in the 60’s (I personally have used the Velvetouch lining since 1960’s until brake lining production ceased in 1986), then switched to Carbo. Wellman has been the builder of braking linings for all of the Formula 1 race teams for more than 30 years.

Recommendation: CarboTech Engineering lining, which I have used for about 15+ years and been very happy on multiple full size (V8) cars and trucks. This particular lining has a high friction co-efficient, excellent pedal feel, wear (typically 50,000 to 75,000 miles before replacement is required) and produces less dust than OEM linings. IIRR, I paid about $130 for my last set including shipping. They have a web site at www.ctbrakes.com, but I highly recommend speaking to them by phone for linings that would be best for your application at 877-899-5024 or 704-481-8500. With regards to rotors, I have previously run Brembo OEM replacement rotors that are cryogenically treated at Diversified Cryogenics, making them almost as hard as stainless steel. Unfortunately, Brembo, Powerslot, Raybestos, Bendix, Hawk etc. are all purchasing their rotors from the same foundary in China (with the exception of the $300 each composite high end units for Ferrari, Porsche, etc). I am presently running “Frozen Rotors” from Diversified Cryogenics 888-323-8456. They have a web site at www.FrozenRotors.com. They purchase the highest grade rotors made, laser mic them for quality, scrap the ones that are out of spec and cryogenically treat the good ones which are now as strong as stainless. They will also slot and cross drill the rotors for you. Their service, price and quality is excellent as well.

For street use, slotted/drilled rotors are just “cheese-graters” for the brake pads IMHO, because unless you are involved in true racing conditions, the brake linings do not produce the gases which slotted/drilled rotors are designed to relive. In some cases, brake testing indicated reduce brake efficiency in street-based operations using slotted/drilled rotors when equal comparisons were made. The staff at carbo can speak to you as well regarding those options, but I am very satisfied with the performance & wear of these products.