Making the switch----> MT to AT
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Making the switch----> MT to AT
I know a couple weeks ago I started a thread asking about some mud terrains, but the more thought I put into it, the more I like the idea of an AT tire. Don't get me wrong, MTs are sexy looking tires and can get you to hell and back when the road disappears, but their on-road manners aren't that great.
I've had a Set of Pro Comp mud terrains on my F150 for the last 25k miles, and they have been good tires but I just don't off-road often enough to need that much tread. In case you are wondering, they are worn out due to an alignment issue that went un-corrected by the owner that had it last (I sold the truck, and then bought it back from him 6 months later). If he had corrected the alignment issue and rotated the tires as often I did, they could see 40-45k pretty easily I would imagine. Treadwear wasn't really an issue with these Pro Comp MTs, but they did have an issue with chunks of the tread flying off. I'm not sure what causes that, but they are evidence that it is possible. Noise wasn't bad for an MT tire either, being FAR quieter than the Mickey Thompson Baja Claws I had on my Bronco. I just never used them to their full potential, and think the added comfort from an AT tire would be worth the tradeoff.
Here are my on-road driving tendancies:
Most of the truck's miles will be spent commuting to and from work on the days I don't ride my motorcycle. This commute is 11 miles of paved, 2-lane country roads (no freeway). Outside of commuting to work, the truck will be my grocery-getter (as groceries don't fit on a sportbike very well), and general purpose vehicle. I do a good amount of traveling that involves highway/freeway miles, as well as hauling and towing. The truck does see some 5-7 hour long road trips with either a motorcycle trailer or 22' travel trailer in tow (an instance where the quieter AT would be GREAT!).
Here are my off-road driving tendancies:
I'm not going to lie, most of my off-roading is in name only - that is, it is driving off of a road. At any given time you can find me with bails of alfalfa in the bed driving around the ranch, or around town (the bails don't go anywhere). I like to spin brodies in an empty field once in a while, or repeat that action in the winter while it is raining. I've been known to go on some trail runs with people, but I am not an every weekend trail runner. I tend to avoid mud pits since I have open differentials front and rear, so the trails are usually just dirt, sand or rocks. I've only gotten the truck stuck one time, but that was in mud and way deeper than it looked.
So, as you can see I am not really a good candidate for a mud terrain tire. I love the look of them, but an all terrain is just a better fit for me. I am looking for a tire in the 37x12.50R17 size, or even a 37x13.50R17 if that is what the manufacturer offers.
Here are the tires I have looked into all of them are 37x12.50R17
Nitto Terra Grappler
Pro Comp Xtreme All Terrain
BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO
I've had a Set of Pro Comp mud terrains on my F150 for the last 25k miles, and they have been good tires but I just don't off-road often enough to need that much tread. In case you are wondering, they are worn out due to an alignment issue that went un-corrected by the owner that had it last (I sold the truck, and then bought it back from him 6 months later). If he had corrected the alignment issue and rotated the tires as often I did, they could see 40-45k pretty easily I would imagine. Treadwear wasn't really an issue with these Pro Comp MTs, but they did have an issue with chunks of the tread flying off. I'm not sure what causes that, but they are evidence that it is possible. Noise wasn't bad for an MT tire either, being FAR quieter than the Mickey Thompson Baja Claws I had on my Bronco. I just never used them to their full potential, and think the added comfort from an AT tire would be worth the tradeoff.
Here are my on-road driving tendancies:
Most of the truck's miles will be spent commuting to and from work on the days I don't ride my motorcycle. This commute is 11 miles of paved, 2-lane country roads (no freeway). Outside of commuting to work, the truck will be my grocery-getter (as groceries don't fit on a sportbike very well), and general purpose vehicle. I do a good amount of traveling that involves highway/freeway miles, as well as hauling and towing. The truck does see some 5-7 hour long road trips with either a motorcycle trailer or 22' travel trailer in tow (an instance where the quieter AT would be GREAT!).
Here are my off-road driving tendancies:
I'm not going to lie, most of my off-roading is in name only - that is, it is driving off of a road. At any given time you can find me with bails of alfalfa in the bed driving around the ranch, or around town (the bails don't go anywhere). I like to spin brodies in an empty field once in a while, or repeat that action in the winter while it is raining. I've been known to go on some trail runs with people, but I am not an every weekend trail runner. I tend to avoid mud pits since I have open differentials front and rear, so the trails are usually just dirt, sand or rocks. I've only gotten the truck stuck one time, but that was in mud and way deeper than it looked.
So, as you can see I am not really a good candidate for a mud terrain tire. I love the look of them, but an all terrain is just a better fit for me. I am looking for a tire in the 37x12.50R17 size, or even a 37x13.50R17 if that is what the manufacturer offers.
Here are the tires I have looked into all of them are 37x12.50R17
Nitto Terra Grappler
Pro Comp Xtreme All Terrain
BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO
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I was kind of leaning towards the Pro Comps for their looks as well. A neighbor has a GMC 2500 lifted 8" on 37x13.50R17 Xtreme ATs and they look decent.
But, my girl friend's Dodge 2500 has the Terra Grapplers and I was darn impressed with their performance all around. They are a metric equivilent to 33s I think. As a side note: that Cummins will fry the tires off with the Edge turned up high!
The BFG ATs are timeless, but so freaking ugly!
But, my girl friend's Dodge 2500 has the Terra Grapplers and I was darn impressed with their performance all around. They are a metric equivilent to 33s I think. As a side note: that Cummins will fry the tires off with the Edge turned up high!
The BFG ATs are timeless, but so freaking ugly!
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My Wife runs BFG LongTrails on her Bronco. They are a great on-road, high mileage AT tire. They do Ok in dry snow, dirt, rock, and gravel. Ran all over the Colorado Front Range in every season with them without a problem. I avoided any significant mud, just because I'm sure they would suck there.
I've never had a pair of BFG KOs, but I hear they are very good, and my be in my future. Otherwise I'd go with the Nittos - they have a nice small to medium size lug pattern with lots of siping for ice & snow, and a diagonal cut to run quiet and channel water out to avoid hydroplaning.
I've never had a pair of BFG KOs, but I hear they are very good, and my be in my future. Otherwise I'd go with the Nittos - they have a nice small to medium size lug pattern with lots of siping for ice & snow, and a diagonal cut to run quiet and channel water out to avoid hydroplaning.
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If you were talking 33'' I would have said BFG hands down, I have seen them larger though and they look like black bubbles, just not enough tread to makeup for the taller sidewall, like NoLongerJeepin said GOOFY.
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I would give the Toyo Open Country A/T's a look, also. I have a set on my 150 and they are doing great. Ride is a little quiter than the Nittos, though tread is not quite as agressive. Anyway, good luck with whatever tire you decide on. BTW, I love the looks and life of the BFG-KO's, but the price was way more than what I wanted to spend. My Toyo's are 285/65's or 33x11.50.