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Old 08-19-2010, 05:11 PM
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It's the rough rock that is eating up your tires and 4 miles a day is a lot on a passenger tire on that surface. Log trucks and dump trucks go through tires fast for a reason, they drive rough roads and they have tires built to handle that. If you are getting less than 20,000 on a set of tires it's a combination of driving and or terrain and the type of tire. You need to look for something with a harder rubber compound. Go 6ply and a LT tire and you should see better results.
 
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Old 08-19-2010, 05:19 PM
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you sound like you would love michelins!
 
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Old 08-19-2010, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ab46501
It's the rough rock that is eating up your tires and 4 miles a day is a lot on a passenger tire on that surface. Log trucks and dump trucks go through tires fast for a reason, they drive rough roads and they have tires built to handle that. If you are getting less than 20,000 on a set of tires it's a combination of driving and or terrain and the type of tire. You need to look for something with a harder rubber compound. Go 6ply and a LT tire and you should see better results.
I have done 6 ply. No way. Flats every week. I am using LT tires. reread post. The tires I have now are very hard...thats why they are 'chunking out"
 
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Old 08-19-2010, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AZFX4
Why dont you buy a tire with a mileage warranty?
The Mastercraft HAS a 50,000 mile wear warranty. Heres how that works. I figured it up this morning. You take the mileage you got on tires divided by the warranty miles. Multiply that figure by cost of one tire.-

17,000 divided by 50,000=.340.

.340 X $195.00= $66.30 is the amount I would have to pay for each new Mastercraft replaced under warranty only to go through it again. Total BS.

I'm only looking at Michelin LTX M/S or M/S2's. Tirerack has them in 245/70/17 Load E for $171.00. After shipping and paying to mount and balance they will be well over $200.00 a tire. Probably around $864.00 all in.
 

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Old 08-19-2010, 05:52 PM
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864 mounted and balanced for 4 michilens is CHEAP

those tickets are always well over 1200 dollars at work
 
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Old 08-19-2010, 05:58 PM
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Get an LT rated tire.. You don't need anything more then a load range "C" either.. But, finding that in an 18" tire might not easy..

I'm on my 3rd set of tires on my truck in 9 years.. I put on an average of around 65,000 miles on a set before I replaced them and they still had about 40% tread left when I did it..

The only thing I've seen with my tires running them on gravel roads is that all the rocks that stick in the tread! I pick them out, but have never seen any undo wear because of it..

These have all been LT 265/75/16 "AT" type of tires. All my tires are from a local chain here in the NW called Les Schwab Tires.

My first set was called "Wild Country Radial APT". They were made in the USA, but I don't know the manufacturer... Probably Goodyear?? The second set were "Toyo A/T", made in Japan of course... I only paid $120 each for those Toyo's too! When they wore out with over 65,000 miles on them, I priced them again, and they wanted around $200+ each! So, I got some "Wildcat Radial A/T" made in the USA, and I assume by Goodyear..

To date, I have about 19,000 miles on them and they look brand new.. I've only rotated them twice since I've had them too.. Got them in Feb of 2009 too.

My Dad's dually goes thru tires pretty fast however... But, he does tow a #14,000 5th wheel with it a lot! He's probably only getting around 30,000 miles out of a set. He's been getting the Toyo's.. His first set was the A/T's and now he's trying the H/T's.. He likes the current ones so far...

Good luck!

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Old 08-19-2010, 08:01 PM
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I've never gotten less than 30,000 from a set of tires...


And I've run some cheap M/T's, and live out in the country on a gravel road...
 
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Old 08-19-2010, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 06hdfxst
17-20k sounds like the average life of a set Maxxis Buckshots or something SUPER soft like that. Are you running M/T's, A/T's or road tires?
buckshots on our farm's work truck lasted 50k...now they were bald when we replaced them but we ran them
 
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Old 08-19-2010, 08:58 PM
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I use toyo m/ts on my truck and I do 15-20K rough logging roads daily and I have gotten around 65000kms on them so far and they still got life left. Im not to sure how rough the roads you are driving but the tires you are getting are wearing out way to quick....
 
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Old 08-19-2010, 10:30 PM
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Super swamper boggers, should be the perfect tire for you.
 
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Old 08-19-2010, 10:43 PM
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Do you have a discount tire near you? I just ran your size and this is what it came up with mounted balanced and istalled

Michelin
LTX A/S (34245)

In Stock


P245/70R17 108S RRBL

$169.00 $676.00
Tire Disposal Fee $1.00 $4.00
Valve Stems, Lifetime Rotations FREE
Installation & Lifetime Spin Balancing $15.00 $60.00




Subtotal $740.00

TX 8.25% Sales Tax $56.10



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Total "Out the Door" Price $796.10

Or the M/S for


Michelin
LTX M/S 2 (35410)

Usually Available in 24 Hours


P245/70R17 108T ORWL

$195.00 $780.00
Tire Disposal Fee $1.00 $4.00
Valve Stems, Lifetime Rotations FREE
Installation & Lifetime Spin Balancing $15.00 $60.00




Subtotal $844.00

TX 8.25% Sales Tax $64.68


Total "Out the Door" Price $908.68
 

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Old 08-19-2010, 11:31 PM
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I understand how you can be sick and tired of this, spending $800 per year on tires and only getting 15000-20000 miles per set is ridiculous imo. I dont understand how thats possible with almost any brand/type. It has to me the type of driving you are doing. considering you are running the correct psi, balanced, and proper alignment, which i am sure you are.
With that being said, I currently on the exact tire you mention. The mastercraft at2. i have them in a 305/70/16. im about positive mastercraft is made by cooper. Ive had mine for about a year or so, with around 15000 miles so far, and they look pretty much brand new still. I have owned my truck since 99 and this is just my 3rd set or tires, and i have about 160,000 miles total. One set you may want to look into is bfg all terrains, i had these 1st and got around 75,000 on them, and only rotated them maybe 3-4 times. they were a 265/70/17 i believe, i ran them before i got new rims. no complaints at all with them. next were some mickey thompson baja mtz, they were great until about 35,000 miles, then with actually were little tread wear they became so loud and rough riding, so i got the mastercrafts, only complaint with the mastercrafts is they are very loud also on the highway, extremely loud imo for an all terrain, that has dissapointed me, they were very quite until about 10,000 miles, now getting louder and louder. considering i dont want to recommend anything i havent used, i would only recommend the bfg all terrains. hope this helps, sorry about your problems/ tire issues.
 
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Old 08-20-2010, 11:22 AM
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Thanks for putting prices together for me.

Here is what I am coming up with.

tirerack.com has LTX M/S2's in 245/75/17 Load E for $171.00 each

LTX M/S2's in 235/70/17 Standard Load at $149.00 each

shipping of either is $61.66 for 4 tires.

Probably $15.00 to mount and balance 4=$60.00

Total is $717.00 for SL

$805 for the E rated Load

Continuing to look today.

I did go and rotate tires last night cause had not done it in 4000 miles. The tire shop guy said "boy them rock roads are hard on your tires." I said "yeah that is 17000 miles on those" He did not seem surprised at all. Place where I bought them rotates for free.

Will post pic if I can.
 

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Old 08-20-2010, 01:52 PM
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Could now use some help getting the right factory lug nut for my factory XLT Ford wheels. The after market nuts with my 18's won't work. What do I need? Where? Thanks.
 
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Old 08-20-2010, 02:38 PM
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The life of a tire depends on a number of different factors, some having to do with the quality of tire and some having to do with the quality of care. Typically, each manufacturer will list how long its tires last on the labels. Carefully pay attention to these labels as it may be that a few extra US Dollars per tire will get you an additional 15,000 or 20,000 miles (24,000 or 32,000 km).There are a number of variables that must be taken into account, however. These include road, weather, and driving conditions. Also, some simple maintenance may be able to increase how long tires last by as much as 50 percent, so a tired rated at 50,000 miles (80,000 km) may be able to go 75,000 miles (120,000 km).
 


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