Which Michelins?
#16
The Cross terrains are listed for SUV because of ride quality and lack of noise. They generate half the noise as the "truck" tires on my wife's Explorer Sport Trac. And are wearing a hell of alot better (She has Goodyear Wrangler AT).
Now perhaps the Cross Terrains are no good off road, but thats okay for our 4x2's. And a warranty is a warranty, and 65k is very nice.
They do not have the macho truck tire look, so if thats what you're into, the LTX is a better bet.
I don't care how its listed, its a great tire.
Now perhaps the Cross Terrains are no good off road, but thats okay for our 4x2's. And a warranty is a warranty, and 65k is very nice.
They do not have the macho truck tire look, so if thats what you're into, the LTX is a better bet.
I don't care how its listed, its a great tire.
#17
#18
Hey Guys,
No smoky burnouts in my baby. Though I live in Atlanta, I don't drive like it
I still have a fair amount of tread left relative to the inital condition of the tires. My concern was that the tread depth is nearing the height of the little bars between the tread sections and I'm not quite sure how much longer that I have before I need another set of tires.
Aside from that, these tires wear very evenly (frequent rotation) and I am quite happy with their performance. Wet and dry traction is excellent. Maybe I'll get another 30K out of them before they need to be replaced, but for now I'm keeping a close eye on how they wear.
This is just my experience with the tires, your mileage may vary (no pun intended).
L8r.
No smoky burnouts in my baby. Though I live in Atlanta, I don't drive like it
I still have a fair amount of tread left relative to the inital condition of the tires. My concern was that the tread depth is nearing the height of the little bars between the tread sections and I'm not quite sure how much longer that I have before I need another set of tires.
Aside from that, these tires wear very evenly (frequent rotation) and I am quite happy with their performance. Wet and dry traction is excellent. Maybe I'll get another 30K out of them before they need to be replaced, but for now I'm keeping a close eye on how they wear.
This is just my experience with the tires, your mileage may vary (no pun intended).
L8r.
#19
"Cross Terrain SUV
. Designed just for SUVs
. Rugged looks
. On-road responsiveness and comfort "
This is called marketing. The SUV market is HUGE. If you had an SUV, wouldn't you want a tire made just for you?!
So maybe I need education. Exactly what are the characteristics of the F-150 that are different from that of an Explorer ? What would cause the tire to wear faster on a pickup than an SUV. Weight? Lug Pattern? Front/rear end steerin and suspension components? If so, which components?
Why would the "SUV" tire be a bad choice for the F-150? Tread depth? Pattern? Siping? SUV printed on it?
It is more of of a highway tire for sure, not marketed as anything else. Its quiet and has one of the best treadwear ratings on the market.
Saying a tire will not wear well on an F-150 because Michelin says its for SUV's is...well...fill in the blank.
. Designed just for SUVs
. Rugged looks
. On-road responsiveness and comfort "
This is called marketing. The SUV market is HUGE. If you had an SUV, wouldn't you want a tire made just for you?!
So maybe I need education. Exactly what are the characteristics of the F-150 that are different from that of an Explorer ? What would cause the tire to wear faster on a pickup than an SUV. Weight? Lug Pattern? Front/rear end steerin and suspension components? If so, which components?
Why would the "SUV" tire be a bad choice for the F-150? Tread depth? Pattern? Siping? SUV printed on it?
It is more of of a highway tire for sure, not marketed as anything else. Its quiet and has one of the best treadwear ratings on the market.
Saying a tire will not wear well on an F-150 because Michelin says its for SUV's is...well...fill in the blank.
#20
I just dumped the GY RT-S's in favor of the LTX M/S's. What a beautiful moment that was! I suffered through 29k miles on two sets of the GY's, only because the first set went out of round on me. Dealer gave me four mew ones. After the second set did the same, I ran to Costco for the Michelins. I have owned a '87, '94, '97, '99 and now a '01 F-150 and ran LTX's on all of them. Never once disappointed. Treadware was stellar on all trucks. I just could not wear them out. All trucks, regardless of tire, are squirrely in the wet, but the Michelins do help. There may be a better tire for these trucks, but I wouldn't know. I'll stick with what works.
Clem
Clem
#21
The Cross Terrain also comes standard on the GMC Sierra C3 now the Sierra Denali. That's a big heavy truck and I don't think it matters if the tire is on an Expedition or pickup. I have the Michelin LTX MS on my rig with 42000 miles on the tires, they have roughly 7/32nds tread left. I figure they will probably last to 60000.
#22
fwiw
I went to the tire store today to put my order in for my winter "November thru March" tires on my L. We've had VERY good luck with Nokian NRW 4-seasons on my wife's car as cold season tires, so I opted to go with the light truck version of them called the WR. The rep said he thought they should be the best winter spec tire you can drive in warm weather.
Anyway, while I was there I noticed they had both the Cross Terrain SUV and the LTX M/S tires, in the same size, next to each other in the Michelin display. I walked over and gave each a quick firm push on the sidewall with my thumb. Night and day difference! The LTX M/S was slightly stiff, like I'm used to feeling in truck tires. The Cross Terrains were squishy - almost like a kid's playground ball. I can see how they get such a cushy ride! I talked with the rep about them, and he confirmed that he wouldn't dare take them off road.
YMMV. Maybe they should've called them the Cross-Suburbs SUV?
Anyway, while I was there I noticed they had both the Cross Terrain SUV and the LTX M/S tires, in the same size, next to each other in the Michelin display. I walked over and gave each a quick firm push on the sidewall with my thumb. Night and day difference! The LTX M/S was slightly stiff, like I'm used to feeling in truck tires. The Cross Terrains were squishy - almost like a kid's playground ball. I can see how they get such a cushy ride! I talked with the rep about them, and he confirmed that he wouldn't dare take them off road.
YMMV. Maybe they should've called them the Cross-Suburbs SUV?
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#25
I've got about 1,000 miles (mostly freeway) on the Michelin Cross Terrain SUV in 265/70/16. My stockers were POS Generals in 255/70/16.
I hated the Generals, but endured 60,000 miles with them.
It is true the Michelin SUV has a very soft sidewall - I checked before they were installed. I run 35 psi now where I used to run 32 psi on my stockers. Ride is still better. Occasional gravel and dirt roads getting to campgrounds are the only off pavement use my truck wil ever see, so I'm not worried about flats due to soft sidewalls.
Ride is much better and road noise is greatly reduced with the Michelins. I've only flung the truck around my favorite curves and cloverleaf onramps a few times, and I can say that roadholding is much better. At cornering speeds that would be at the limits of my old tires, the Michelins are completely composed and could clearly handle much more.
Have not beein in the wet yet, but the Generals were horrible in the rain, so I'm sure the Michelins will be much better there, too.
Overall I am happy with the choice, espeically if I get 75,000 miles out of these. However, I do notice the slightly worse accelleration (especially when freeway passing) of the taller tire, and I probably should have stayed with the 255/70 size.
I hated the Generals, but endured 60,000 miles with them.
It is true the Michelin SUV has a very soft sidewall - I checked before they were installed. I run 35 psi now where I used to run 32 psi on my stockers. Ride is still better. Occasional gravel and dirt roads getting to campgrounds are the only off pavement use my truck wil ever see, so I'm not worried about flats due to soft sidewalls.
Ride is much better and road noise is greatly reduced with the Michelins. I've only flung the truck around my favorite curves and cloverleaf onramps a few times, and I can say that roadholding is much better. At cornering speeds that would be at the limits of my old tires, the Michelins are completely composed and could clearly handle much more.
Have not beein in the wet yet, but the Generals were horrible in the rain, so I'm sure the Michelins will be much better there, too.
Overall I am happy with the choice, espeically if I get 75,000 miles out of these. However, I do notice the slightly worse accelleration (especially when freeway passing) of the taller tire, and I probably should have stayed with the 255/70 size.